Clock strikes one minute past the hour

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  1. Anthony Landi

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    Am new at this so please forgive if redundant. Have Ansoniia clock, it strikes one minute after the hour and half. There is no play with the minute hand. How is this corrected?
     
  2. shutterbug

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    You can try turning the minute hand over. If that doesn't work, 1 minute is not enough to warrant the effort needed to correct it. You would have to increase the J hook bend ever so slightly.
     
  3. jere dorough

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    I wish I could help you but I have the opposite problem...my Seth Thomas Umbria strikes 2 minutes before the hour (sigh)
     
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    The ST might have a hand collet that you can just turn to adjust.
     
  5. R. Croswell

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    It would really help to see a few pictures of the clock(s) we are talking about. For some clocks +/- one minute is acceptable, others might be expected to do better. Two minutes off is too much for me to approve.

    RC
     
  6. jere dorough

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    thanks shutterbug for your response...after twisting, pushing, pulling, yelling the umbria now strikes 1 minute before 12. a 100% improvement.. i'm surprised no one suggested rotating the dial by about 12 degrees counter clockwise so the minute hand would be on the 12 when striking. why does the 12 have to be at the top anyway:???: who made that rule:???:
     
  7. Willie X

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    A crooked dial is notacable 24/7. A strike that isn't on the mark is rarely notacable unless you sit and stare at the clock a lot ... :) Willie X
     
  8. MARK A. BUTTERWORTH

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    Bending the unlocking lever on the minute shaft forward or backwards controls when the unlocking occurs. It it trial and error for sure.
     
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    With winding clocks, you can't really turn the dial without messing up the winding square position ;)
     
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    So, if you widen the hook, the strike will occur when the minute hand is closer (preferably on) the twelve?
     
  11. Willie X

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    Widening or narrowing the hook will not get what you seek. You want to change the 'curl' of the hook in the correct direction. This will be a very small amount for a two minute change.

    I'm with Bugs and RC. My reasoning is based on the possibility of breaking something! Oops, now my clock doesn't work at all!

    Willie X
     
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    I'm not planning on doing this, but I'm trying to visualize it. Are you saying you would adjust on the turn, making the shorter part of the "J" longer or shorter depending on how you want the minute hand to adjust?
     
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    Adjusting the J hook if there is one. You can increase and decrease when it drops off the lift. This will be on the 12, before or after, till you get it right.
     
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    So, if the short part of the J is too long, it will take longer to drop off after the hand passes the 12. If it's short, it will drop off before the hand reaches the 12? I'm surprised someone hasn't come up some kind of end that makes it possible to adjust. The fact no one has suggests that it's not a big enough issue to bother.

    Wow... This is why these things are so fascinating to me. It's beautifully simple while being complicated at the same time. It's like a 19th century computer. It always amazes me that someone had to figure all this out.
     
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    Yes. If both the hour and half hour drop off are equally off, adjusting the J hook will fix the problem. Widen the hook to make the drop occur earlier, narrow it for later.
    However if the two are not equal (and assuming you don't have a passing strike), then you have to adjust the lift on the arbor, not the hook.
     
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    Check out bangster's "Adjusting the J-wire hook article. I still can't do a link, so click on the "How to Do It" section at the top of this forum, then Hints and How-to's forum. Scroll down to his article.
     
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    Thanks! This helps greatly. :)
     

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