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  1. Bogey

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    Here's one I haven't seen yet: Time only movement with bell... :???:
     
  2. MartinM

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    Sounds like a passing strike, to me.
     
  3. Bruce Alexander

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    I'm guessing that the Strike Train doesn't work any more? :emoji_poop:
     
  4. Steven Thornberry

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    Or it is time and alarm. Without pictures, who knows?
     
  5. Bruce Alexander

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    That would make more sense Steven, but if so, one would expect "Alarm Clock....alarm doesn't work" :chuckling: As you say, without a good photo who knows what they are trying to sell?
     
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    Seen today - "Wall Grandfather clock" (It's maybe 30" tall), and better yet - "Custom antique clocks". There have been many times I would like to customize the antique clocks I see - improve their condition, revert back to their original movement rather than Korean, make missing pieces reappear, etc. I'll have to contact this guy and see how he does it.
     
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    Just saw this "Antique eight days battery clock"
     
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    Another one "Beautiful Antique Ansonia Clock. Presently not working, but was told by a clock repairman that it was probably just overwound. "
     
  9. mauleg

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    I love the "overwound" bit. Kind of like my car. It won't run because the gas tank is full.
     
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    Or more precisely it won't run because the gas tank is *too* full!
     
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    And would any clock repairman ever say that? All of mine are rotationally wound. That would make a good word as a substitute :D
     
  12. steamer471

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    Saw this for a "Antique Black Forest Cuckoo Clock"

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    Vintage almost antique, battery operated wall clock
     
  14. Bruce Alexander

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    #64 Bruce Alexander, Mar 22, 2018
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    Tambour Case Clock to brighten your home with its' look and sound (once your refurbish)....Need to clean and oil the pinion points to see if that corrects the issue."

    At least the Seller is honest even if their sky-high asking price should include the "refurbishment". (In my opinion.) Those pesky pinion points!
     
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    Just saw this recently - ORIGINAL PATINA - Really, it came from the factory that way, right?
     
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    Saw this one today.

    THE CLOCK WORKS BUT IF IT IS NOT WOUND FOR A FEW DAYS AND STOPS, YOU NEED TO WIND IT AND THEN SHAKE IT TO GET IT TO RUN AGAIN
     
  17. G J M

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    I have wondered if anyone knows how many "RA" wall clocks there are out there?
     
  18. Bruce Alexander

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    :chuckling: ...and maybe beat the heck out of it too just to show it who's boss...:mallet:
     
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    new definition of seller optimism:

    Vintage framed poster of White Tiger holding beer keg, with clock - $2500. Runs off 1 AA battery, “very” rare.

    their quotes... dinky little clock in upper right corner of picture frame. perhaps we could determine authenticity if we had a picture of the movement? :cool:
     
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    A long time ago i did buy a cuckoo clock that need Restoration and it did send me a bit Coo Coo, never again. :cuckoo::mallet:
     
  21. brian fisher

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    #71 brian fisher, Jun 28, 2018
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    please excuse my off color humor. I apologize if this offends someone. my potty brain found this to be too funny not to share.

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    this is a screen shot and not a link...so...at least not breaking the rules in that aspect.

    my quips:

    Thats a lot of money for an old rooster!

    Particularly suitable for a lonely grandmother!

    and:

    Hey! I'm a grandfather. I wonder if I could get paid that much for this service?


    can anyone come up with something better?
     
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    seems expensive to me... i would expect the entire clock for that price. :cool:
     
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    I feel sorry for Grandpa. Unless, of course, he is a willing participant then good for him!!

    Otherwise, grand son Howard Miller should be arrested for either pimping or organ sales, depending on the condition of grandpa.
     
  24. Bruce Alexander

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    Wonder if he's got it in beat,
     
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    Old winding clock great shape has everything you need to get it ticking.
    condition: excellent
    make / manufacturer: Made in England

    Picture is of a tambour clock with three winding arbors
     
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    There is a listing now for an "Ingraham" clock with photos that clearly show "Seth Thomas" very prominently on the dial. The part I find interesting - the photo is actually clear since many are terrible.

    Or how about the people who advertise a clock without any pictures at all?

    Tom
     
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    You get auction houses doing tha5t on the saleroom all the time. Then there are the ones with several of exactly the same shot all in the distance and out of focus.

    The new thing on the saleroom is to supply a picture of the top of the door on a longcase as the only pic. Very helpful.
     
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    latest:

    "Vintage, Excellent condition, Not working
    No scratches nor damage - all good! One little broken spire on top"
     
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    I've just re-read this entire thread, and it's still a hoot! :nutjob:
     
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    I would have to quote Forrest Gump or John Wayne here but in some cases there are deals to be had............I bought a Beautiful Meiji on the " net " and is was "runs but only if tilted to an angle", HMMMMMM :???:?? it was T&S and Calendar and the case was almost flawless,paid $40.00 for it (less than 2 hands at Vegas) adjusted the crutch and it is still running. But sometimes feigned ignorance is done with a purpose.

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    doesn't really raise a red flag, more of a smile:

    "Hulk Hogan alarm clock and toothbrush" :cool:
     
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    I want to buy the tooth brush.
     
  33. The Treasured Clock

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    I wonder how many people knows what "R A" really means. I am willing to overlook those people who may not know. I hope they will come to our site, they are welcomed to view any of the threads. This thread is a bit post humorous, and yet those of us find such red flags on items for sale on the internet. Descriptions of items such as clocks are sparse and lacking in further details. It is kind of confusing, as well as humorous, to call a shelf clock, like the kitchen clock, as a grandfather clock!?!
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    Yeah, I know what you mean. I do it every morning right after I drag myself out of bed.:rolleyes:
     
  35. brian fisher

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    along the lines of Jonathan's post above, it really cracks me up every time I see a cheap 1970's grandfather clock listed as a "tempus fugit". ever better would be a "rare" tempus fugit. now that I think about it, I wonder why I don't have 5 or 6 of those in my collection? lol.

    maybe someone should study a little latin.
     
  36. JTD

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    I have just seen 'beautiful clock, runs well and keeps time. No pendulum'.

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    I had a carriage clock like that.
     
  38. JTD

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    I think I am too literal minded - it had never occurred to me that the seller was trying to say that the clock wasn't a pendulum clock, I thought they were saying the pendulum missing. Feel badly now for thinking them stupid.

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    Oh I have no doubt you were right!
     
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    "Clock not working" - turns out there was no movement in the case.
     
  41. The Treasured Clock

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    A 1902 pocket watch needing batteries?:???::?| If somebody can me correct if I am wrong, I do not think pocket watches of that period has not made the transition as of yet. It is kind of ironic to confuse a spring driven mechanical timepiece with a quartz timepiece which came later. From what I found out on this thread that quartz timepieces was made right around 1927 and then commercialized later. Again humorous, and yet sends a red flag. Whoever has advertise this pocket watch provided misinformation. Again, poor communications.
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    First quartz watch was in the sixties, first battery driven watch in the 50s. I suspect a battery from the 20s would be a bit big for a watch
     
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    I have another point to make as well as a question. Whenever the word "rare" is mentioned in ads it may be thrown around a bit loosely. The word "rare" may have many different meanings, depending upon who has written it and who has read it. What does "rare" mean? What does "very rare" mean? Sometimes those things may not so "rare" after all. Can this be just a selling gimmick just to pass those things, such as clocks, off to unsuspecting buyers?
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    I think "rare" simply means that the seller has not seen many others of the same type. "very rare" simply means the seller is trying too hard. lol
     
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    nothing like emoting several degrees of rareness.....and then we have partially pregnant to consider too?
     
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    well, i have something listed somewhere where i used the word 'rare'... after spending three days power googling and searching major auction houses trying to find similar items. i was unable to find an identical model, but did find a whopping two similar items. i think that justifies the use of the word! :cool:

    i would have said 'medium rare' but 'well done' is the new 'medium' in san francisco's higher end restaurants. :cool:

    bugs me when people say 'antique' and it's a 70s crapola grandfather clock... or battery-operated... or sold their item on craigslist but couldn't be bothered to take down the listing... or respond saying it sold.

    sigh.
     
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    I recently purchased my first dolar watch. I was in an antique mall and found a wristwatch with a tag that said "needs battery $1." I quickly put it on my wrist, wound it up paid my dollar and wore my 1970's Timex out the door. Keeps good time and made my girlfriend chuckle.
     
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    Waterbury 'Drink Coca Cola in Bottles' 1885 Longdrop Wall Regulator
    1. CocaCola was created in 1886.
    2. CocaCola was first bottled in 1894.
    3. The style of logo on the dial first appeared in 1950.
    Clocks that transcend time must be exceedingly rare.
     
  49. The Treasured Clock

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    I agree with Bruce. It's like selling a 15 year old antique clock. Notice what I said here? I have to admit that there is something wrong with that scenario. Cuckoo clocks are still being made throughout 2017 and 2018. Sellers still pass them off as antiques unaware of their age. Yes, it will bug you, since you are one of the many posters who does the research and knows better. I have a cuckoo clock that was given to me. The cuckoo clock was made around 1987. The guy said it was an antique. Does that send up a red flag?
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    Antique cuckoo clocks usually have count wheels :D
     

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