Clock Identification

[Dave T]

38" tall by 18" wide with two doors. And a short pendulum? Doesn't appear to be correct to me?
And too bad the interior has been painted. And the dial has been replaced.
So, what is it?

 

[bruce linde]

I would want to see photos with the hands and dial removed... the two door thing is interesting and might be a clue... maybe Jim DuBois might know?

 

[Dave T]

Yea me too, I guess I'll have to go look at it. I'm thinking Boardman and Wells, or Terry?
But the pendulum looks too short?

 

[Jim DuBois]

Most likely is, or was an 8-day clock. The style of the case was used by several makers, including Jerome and Darrow, Seth Thomas, and Eli Terry. I can't be any more specific than that, with what we can see in the photos

 

[Dave T]

Thanks Jim, Did these come with (non) wooden movements. This one looks like it might be a spring wind. I've got inquiries out, but no answers yet. What we can see of the top appears that it might have been weight driven, but I've asked for a better picture.

 

[Jim DuBois]

These were not spring-driven clocks originally. The cases originated several years before American made spring became readily available. The double doors suggest 8-day wood by Terry or Thomas. I have had this style case from both makers, and both were 8-day wood movements.

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Thanks Jim, Did these come with (non) wooden movements. This one looks like it might be a spring wind. I've got inquiries out, but no answers yet. What we can see of the top appears that it might have been weight driven, but I've asked for a better picture.

Agree with Jim.

Couple of things.

What is it? A really nice fully carved "double decker" case but overall, as they say, a hurtin' puppy.

Someone wanted a functional clock and put some stuff together and, voila.

I believe that the current movement is probably a later spring driven movement. Not original.

It could be that the original wooden dial may be suffocating under what I believe is a cardboard overpaste. Hides the extra holes.

Yes indeed, there are sometimes RARE legit instances of brass movements in cases intended for ww.

The very early C&CL Ives weight driven strap brass movements were placed in essentially ww cases.

Heisley of PA placed his unique weight driven brass movements into Jerome 8 day ww clocks. See the Forums for an example.

Another J.S. Ives misadventure was to try to place a spring driven ww into small cases. Emphasis on small. The loud thud still echoes today. Kirk and Birge placed spring and fusee movements in the left over cases, respectively (examples have been posted on the Forums) intended for ww.

In a bit of reverse, Terry placed a weight driven ww into a case used by Blakeslee with a 30 hour weight driven brass works.

Unless you really like the case and/or have the proper guts to transplant or a use for the parts, not sure I would devote the $$ and real estate to display it.

But, a personal choice.

RM

 

[Dave T]

Thanks RM, The only thing that really speaks to me about this clock is the case with the nicely carved mouldings. It all goes down hill from there. I'm still communicating with the lady. And thought I might offer to take it off her hands and try to find a home for it, but I certainly won't put much into it. Not even sure the case is worth much with all that paint inside.

 

[Peter A. Nunes]

Spectacular carving! Another gorgeous fragment.

 

[Dave T]

That's why I like it!

 

[Jim DuBois]

Just a few months ago I sold a virtually identical case, no movement, for $80. But it did have a label, Terry, and it sold quickly.

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Thanks RM, The only thing that really speaks to me about this clock is the case with the nicely carved mouldings. It all goes down hill from there. I'm still communicating with the lady. And thought I might offer to take it off her hands and try to find a home for it, but I certainly won't put much into it. Not even sure the case is worth much with all that paint inside.

If you can buy it REAL cheap...

RM

 

[Dave T]

One more picture. Not good news. Looks like some old linoleum patches held down by carpet tacks, to cover up the weight pulleys opening. Looks like it was done years ago.