chinese movement for parts anyone??

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I have a cust that brought me a chinese clock that is not old but has some sentimental value to her. It broke a mainspring and her son decided he could take it apart and fix it..... he forgot to unwind the other spring, lucky for him he only got a couple of cuts on his fingers as gears came flying out.
problem is it bent two gears on the chime side beyond repair. does anyone have an idea where I can find such a thing I would appreciate it.
thanks David:?|
 

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Squinting at your avatar: Heavily modified Model "A"?
Also you could consider replacing with a new movement. You don't say what flavor - style clock. Replacing the movement may require replacing also the hands and dial. Not always but often.
 

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David,

I like probably many others here have 'some' chinese works / parts around. A picture of the plates from yours would help out, if you are going to make the effort to fix that one. Sentimental is sometimes enough of a reason to make the effort even though the works are pretty bad.

Anyway, a picture would be needed and then I could check what I have.

Best Regards

David
 

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If Chinese movements are anything like Korean movements, a lot of parts are interchangeable. So you may get lucky. The only one I have was chain drive from a Grandfather clock, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone I liked:eek:
 

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I'm curious to see what you have that isn't repairable. Worse case, you might have to have an arbor or two made, maybe even a wheel .... all things are possible :)
 

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Actually, I forget exactly what was wrong with this one, but I think it had something to do with the ratchet and click. The woman had paid about 4 grand for it, a 2 train clock. Nice particle board case with oriental designs. I put in a Hermle Westminister. Customer happy
 

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4 grand for that:???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???::???:? :?|:?|:?|:?|:?|:?|:?|:mysad:
Wow Harold she sure got a :???::???:? clock, not even a solid wood case.I would love a grandfather clock, but not that one.
 

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Well my computor died and I just got a new one, and found all this info,
in the mean time, I was digging though some old clocks in the storage unit and looky there, I had one, so I was able to salvage a center wheel and and second wheel with the same tooth count and diameter, I then made new bushing to fit the arbor and press it and stake it and put it back together and it is running great.
The reason I could not fix the gears it bent was because her son took a pair of pliers to try and straighten it out and broke part of the wheel off and then lost the pieces.
I took her the clock on Christmas eve and told her Merry Christmas...
She is 86 and bedridden, but the sweetest lady, glad I had the chance to help her.
Again thank you all for the info and help
David:thumb:
 

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You never know how things like that will work out! I knew a guy that was always nice to an old lady customer of his, always going out of his way to help because she was of little means and feeble. He was shocked when she died. Having no family, she left him her estate which included over 1/4 million in the bank! Go figure :)
 

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With my luck somone would leave me all their bills!

I took in a Chinese clock in for repair just this week. Less than a year old, the time mainspring broke and is cracked in at least 4 other places. Never seen anything like it on such a new clock.

Fortunately, Timesavers has a spring close enough.

HOWEVER, I had to take the movement apart to get the barrell out of the movement. It would appear that that like some German movements, the arbor would slide through a slot in the front plate.

Unfortunately, in order to reach the slot in the arbor that matches the slot in the plate, the spring has be be detached from the arbor by reverse winding the arbor. That would not work as the broken piece of mainspring would just slip and not disconnect.

I only took on this job to learn about the quality and repairability of these movements. Since this envolved a house call to take the movement out of a GM case and the clock only cost $99 new, future repairs to clocks of this type may shock the customers wallet.
 

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About two weeks ago, I had a house call with what turned out to be a Chinese tall case clock. It had stopped running after being purchased new two years ago. I oiled the clock, levelled the case, and spent some time trying to make the auto-beat stay in beat. That was difficult to do because I wanted to get my finger in there to assist the auto-beat in regulating itself. The reason it was a difficult adjustmtment was due to the lack of access to the movement once it was in the case. The movement was mounted in a wooden frame that almost completely surrounded it and was attached directly to the dial and its frame material. There was no side or rear panel access to the movement.

I was wondering the same thing that you mentioned, Len: the cost of repairs, even basic maintenance, exceeding the value of the clock. How much are the Chinese replacements running on average? I have never replaced/purchased any Asian movement.
 

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Consider them (the whole clock) to be disposeable.
Like Chinese food, an hour later you will be working on it again:bang:
 

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Scottie-TX said:
Squinting at your avatar: Heavily modified Model "A"?

Nope. Looks to me like a Deuce.

I take that back. Hard to see, but the grille looks more like a '33 or '34. But if it's a shortbed pickup (looks like it may be) then all my bets are off.
 

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As far as I know entire movements are not available. Neither are individual parts, but I didnt look on eBay.

The description of the clock that you did a couple of weeks ago, is exactly the clock that I am working on.

There are no names or marks anywhere on the clock, except for a small sticker on the back "Made in China".

In the instruction manual I did find "Hammond" clock. I could not find anything on this company name with GF/GM clocks on the Internet.

I will be blunt with the owner of the next one that I get a call on, that it will cost much more than they paid for the clock or I will replace the movement with a quartz. However, even that could be more than the cost of the clock unless they are willing to deliver and pick-up.
 

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Probably just me, but I'd rather work on a Chinese clock than a Linden :)
 

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Well;
Pains me immensely, but yeah; Yer right. Definitely not an "A". 33/34 about right too I'd say;
Nope. Looks to me like a Deuce.
Nah ; Don't see a pickup there either. Yer probly right about the coupe too. Why'd they call 'em "DEUCE"s ?
 

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Scottie-TX said:
Well;
Pains me immensely, but yeah; Yer right. Definitely not an "A". 33/34 about right too I'd say;
Nope. Looks to me like a Deuce.
Nah ; Don't see a pickup there either. Yer probly right about the coupe too. Why'd they call 'em "DEUCE"s ?

Nineteen-thirty-TWO.

(First year for Ford V-8.)
 

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Len said:
Tony
As far as I know entire movements are not available. Neither are individual parts, but I didnt look on eBay.

The description of the clock that you did a couple of weeks ago, is exactly the clock that I am working on.

There are no names or marks anywhere on the clock, except for a small sticker on the back "Made in China".

In the instruction manual I did find "Hammond" clock. I could not find anything on this company name with GF/GM clocks on the Internet.

I will be blunt with the owner of the next one that I get a call on, that it will cost much more than they paid for the clock or I will replace the movement with a quartz. However, even that could be more than the cost of the clock unless they are willing to deliver and pick-up.


Thanks for the info, Len. Maybe we can convert some of the Asians into Germans? Wouldn't that be rich?:)
 
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