Chime Clock Chiming Incorrectly on Quarter Hour

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  1. phins44

    phins44 New Member

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    I have a chime clock that is not chiming correctly on each quarter hour. It's "off".

    Instead of

    Q1 - 1 2 3 4
    Q2 - 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4
    Q3 - 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4
    Q4 - 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4

    It's chiming this way, part of the previous chime in the next chime...

    Q1 - 3 4 l 1 2 (with the 3 4 being from the previous quarter hour (top of the hour)
    Q2 - 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2
    Q3 - 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2
    Q4 - 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 3 4 l 1 2 (with the hour chiming starting between the 1 2)

    I hope this makes sense.

    Thanks for any help!
     
  2. Willie X

    Willie X Registered User

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    I've seen a few 'waterfall' chimers (actually strikers) that repeated the same sequence.

    Maybe a few photos would help.

    Willie X
     
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    There is usually a set screw on the wheel that drive
    the chime wheel.
    You can use that to set the pause at the last
    chime strike.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  5. Willie X

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    What TInker said.
    If you set the ratio wheel on the back to play the 4 descending notes at the 1st quarter, everything else pretty much has to fall onto place.
    That movement (Jauch 77) plays the regular Westminster chime.
    The strike hammer should not normally be on that position. So, I'm guessing you have other timing issues?
    Willie X
     
  6. Jasons34

    Jasons34 Registered User

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    That fix like tinker and Willie said is very easy to do. Just make sure that way it's adjusted to play the correct sequence for each one that it's rotated enough so that the train gets a good running start before lifting the first hammer. Basically when the train starts in motion there should be a small pause before the first hammer is pulled back and then the last hammer fires right as the train stops. If you don't have that delay at the beginning it might struggle lifting the first hammer in the future. As for the strike hammers those should not be resting backlike that as what Willie also pointed out. Work on the chime first then we can help you address the strike
     
  7. phins44

    phins44 New Member

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    Thanks! Works perfectly now. Concerning the strike, they hit the chimes on the hour but definitely want to hear what you guys thing. I added two new pictures. Thanks again!
    View attachment 340309 View attachment 340310
     
  8. Willie X

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    After the strike finishes, the hammers should remain in the 'rest' position. They should not lift when the warning takes place. They should lift after the train starts to run, just as Jason just descriped for the chime hammers.
    Willie X
     
  9. shutterbug

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    You can move the star wheel. Brace against a post with a screwdriver and force it forward until the hammer falls. That's it.
     
  10. R&A

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    If you find that the screw keeps locating to the same place. Take it off and turn it 90 degrees and relock in place.
     
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