Castle Teutonia Clock

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  1. jzaw

    jzaw Registered User

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    Hi, I recently purchased a Castle Clock that resembles Black Forest family. It has a sticker Teutonia Clock Manufactory. Can I have your thoughts about its age and potentially value?

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  2. JTD

    JTD Registered User

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    Welcome to the board.

    The mark 'Teutonia' was used by Phillip Haas & Söhne, of St. Georgen (Germany). You can just see the initials PHS in the lower part of the crest on the label. The company was in business from 1867 to 1935. I would estimate the date of your clock to be the last quarter of the 19th century, but I am not sure.

    We are not allowed to discuss values on this part of the notice board. There is a section 'What is this clock worth' at the very bottom of the main page.

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  3. senhalls

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    I believe this clock originally had a guard figure that moved left and right on the balcony below the dial. That is why there is a slot under the dial. Also there is a long arbor on second arbor of the time side. That arbor drives the figure back and forth. There are books showing this mechanism. A seldom seen example of black forest clock. May have had cuckoo OR trumpeter pipes. The levers are missing from the left side of movement.
     
  4. jzaw

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    Thank you very much for your valuable thoughts.
    That's exactly what I thought I saw once before some time ago. A figure walking on the balcony. No images that I could find on the net at present. Unfortunately, also no books that would have images of these clocks / movements.
    There are little doors on both sides of the castle which were probably to service the missing elements.
    Is there a chance that these parts can be sourced from somewhere? Is it worth the effort?
     
  5. senhalls

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    If that were my clock I would expend the effort to make it whole again. Rare clock. Your pictures aren't large enough to show the case inside. I wonder if it had cuckoo pipes or horns or maybe it was time and strike only. Are there slots on the case sides for cuckoo pipes ? Or screw holes for mounting horns ? "Black Forest Clocks" by Ortenburger shows the mechanism of one. Page 244. There is another system I have seen illustrated that uses a brass sector gear to turn the soldier at either end. Simple and ingenious. But I cannot find that book in my library. I'll keep looking. I doubt you will source parts, have to make it all.
     
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