Carvings on pocket watches

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  1. Running slow

    Running slow Registered User

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    https://mb.nawcc.org/Were the carvings on 100 year old watches machine done or were any done by hand. I have a 1750 solid gold like new and its very hard to believe someone could hand carve the design.
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  2. Jerry Freedman

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    Is that supposed to be a 1750 watch? I don't think your picture is even an 1850 watch!
     
  3. Cary Hurt

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    To expand upon what Jerry said, based upon the design of the pendant, and the fact that this is a stem wound, rather than key-wound watch, it appears to be more likely late 19th, or early 20th century, rather than mid 18th century.

    To address your question, most early watch cases were indeed hand engraved, albeit to standardized patterns. Solid gold cases, being luxury items, were often treated to custom engraving of a highly artistic nature. Hand engraving stayed the norm until the mass mechanization of the late 19th century allowed rolled or stamped engraving to be incorporated. Solid gold cases continued to be hand engraved until probably the 1930s. For more details, you might want to read Fortunat Mueller-Maerki's review of a recently published book, Memoirs of a Watch Case Engraver by Fritz Baumgartner.

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  4. Tom McIntyre

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    The watch case shown was almost certainly made after 1900. Then pendant style, especially, is around 1900 to 1920.
     
  5. Running slow

    Running slow Registered User

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    Indeed this is a Waltham watch used only as a referance and no it is not a 1750. Infact I believe without looking it up it was something like 1904 date.
    The 1750 watch indeed i do have and beautifully carved .However when posted it was not on flicker for transfer so I used the waltham as an example of crisip design .

    LOL Can't fool you guys eh LOL
     
  6. Tom McIntyre

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    The Waltham was not hand engraved. The tools used to engrave it are in the NAWCC Museum in Columbia. The templates are very large and several cases can be engraved at one time.

    There were more than one process used for mass production of complex case designs. I believe some were based on stamping as well as the template engraving machine in the museum.
     

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