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Can you help identify this clock

TimWK

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This is time only, no mark on movement except serial # 5868. It is very small at 31" tall. From the look of the veneer on the top it looks to have had a tough life. Would like to know approximate year it was made. Thanks in advance. IMG_0934.JPG IMG_0983.JPG IMG_0984.JPG IMG_0983.JPG IMG_0984.JPG IMG_0979.JPG IMG_0982.JPG IMG_0981.JPG IMG_0932.JPG IMG_0933.JPG IMG_0934.JPG
 

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I think he is older and not necessarily German. The bridge is a bit surprising. And the anchor a little bit too.
Could we also ask for a photo from the top of the mechanism?
Is there any mark on the edge of the plates?
 

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Nice looking clock. Congratulations.

Dunno. Some thoughts:

1) Looks like a 30 hour, with a decorative gridiron and A-R, rather than balloon, bob. Clean dial. I do like those hands though (a thinner style?) .
2) Uses a sprung "going barrel" rather than being weight-driven, yet has a fairly low serial number.
3) No seatboard. has the metal setup and clamps (rope knurl?) which leans westward to me.
4) In another thread, I wondered when that screwdriver-slot adjustable "island" thing to tweak the escapement began to appear. It improves the production process. Who would do such a thing?

The top front appears to have been repaired (life happens) and the hinges/stabilizers may be replacements, but the rest seems okay. I wonder if the case was recently refinished and modern glass put in?
 

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May be Gebruder Resch early 1870-s?
Resch, I don't think so ....
The number would be on the right side of the mechanism.
And not this way of mounting in the box.
I would expect the tips to be original.

This bridge does not match the German production in my opinion.
 

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My thanks to all that replied. I had the serial # wrong in my original post. It is 5262. I'm posting pictures from the top of the movement. There are no marking on the side of the plates.
Best Regards

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Thanks. I like the entire escapement even better than those Breguet-style moon hands. Infinitely adjustable? Maybe that's not rare, but it's a lot of attention to small details. I'll bet it sounds nice. Three notches in the anchor collar look like a final assembler's marking. Perhaps only a few were done at a time (like three or four guys working?). I hope someone can put us all out of our misery wondering where and when this came from...
 

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Resch, I don't think so ....
The number would be on the right side of the mechanism.
And not this way of mounting in the box.
I would expect the tips to be original.

This bridge does not match the German production in my opinion.
Hello Yahagi!

I found some spring movements in my database. I'm sure it's Resch.

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Note that the only signature movement has a serial number at the bottom center, not on the right side of the weight movement.

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By date ~ 1865.

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Tatyana
 
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Yahagi

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Tatyana ... you know how it is ... I don't insist. But...
:)

The method of mounting the shown mechanisms - in my opinion - disqualifies them as Resch.

- the shape of the anchor ... Resch has never done one (or I haven't seen one)
- mechanism mounting - with Resch - always with 4 points, so in 'Austrian' ... Even with the walker 978 - the oldest one I have ever seen.
- the bridge has a very similar shape, but in Rech's case it is made of bent sheet metal, and here it is milled. It has sharp edges.

I don't feel particularly knowledgeable about Resch. Here, Piotr would probably have more to say.

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