Can anyone identify this

[Darrmann39]

I just got this clock. Very cool spinning escapement and balance wheel. Never seen anything like it. Winding arbors in front and the ratchet wheel is in back. Single strike on the hour. odd balance wheel escape

 

[JTD]

Very odd indeed! I have never seen an escapement like that. I don't think it's very old and I don't think it's in the original case but that's about as far as I can go. Why does it look so rusty?

If I had to guess, I would say it is home made but whoever worked out that escapment certainly has skill.

Would be interested to hear what others think.

JTD

 

[Darrmann39]

Very odd indeed! I have never seen an escapement like that. I don't think it's very old and I don't think it's in the original case but that's about as far as I can go. Why does it look so rusty?

If I had to guess, I would say it is home made but whoever worked out that escapment certainly has skill.

Would be interested to hear what others think.

JTD

In my opinions it's all original. Or maybe a 1 off but it seems to all go together. No odd holes or anything. The rust oddly seems to be fingerprints mostly. Where a fingerprint is seems to go out from there. I'll be curious as well what others think. Thanks

 

[roughbarked]

Looks like a commercially available tourbillion.
Though it could be home made. As there do exist home made tourbillions.

 

[Schatznut]

It ought to be stunning once you get it cleaned up! It's super that the curved glass is intact!

 

[Darrmann39]

Looks like a commercially available tourbillion.
Though it could be home made. As there do exist home made tourbillions.

Your take on it being a tourbillon seems to be right on looking it up. Seems to be more of a watch thing. I can't find any comparison in clocks. If it was a commercially available clock seems I'd be able to find Another. What do you think?

 

[Darrmann39]

It ought to be stunning once you get it cleaned up! It's super that the curved glass is intact!

That front glass is broke in 2 places. One that was known. The other in transit. Fortunately I know some good glass blowers makers that can fix make one. I do have all pieces and I will first try glass super glue. To keep original. I agree should look great cleaned up

 

[roughbarked]

The escapement may be commercially available. At least the shock proof parts are.

1277-46-01 - Fine Small Mantel Clock with Tourbillon Escapement.

1277-46-01 - Fine Small Mantel Clock with Tourbillon Escapement

www.glenbryde.com

 

[Darrmann39]

The escapement may be commercially available. At least the shock proof parts are.

1277-46-01 - Fine Small Mantel Clock with Tourbillon Escapement.

1277-46-01 - Fine Small Mantel Clock with Tourbillon Escapement

www.glenbryde.com

So learning alot about something I know nothing of. Although I agree it's probably not antique I can't find anything like it. Most clocks seems to be very small carriage clocks. This is quite large
Either way it's very cool imo

 

[roughbarked]

https://flic.kr/p/7oLtuA
Nicole Nielsen, London, Carriage Clock with Grande Sonnerie and Tourbillon, 1904

 

[zedric]

Here is a more recent clock with a Tourbillon - difficult to adjust to keep time well, as this is done on the escapement, and you have to wait until the clock winds down to make the adjustment (or let down the spring each time). But fun to look at

 

[Burkhard Rasch]

my guess is that this tourbillon is of chinese manufacture , about 20years old and certainly neglected for a long time . It´s not the quality of high end swiss tourbillons but if You get it running it´s nice to look at and to explain the principle of a tourbillon.
The movement should be treated like any old clock movement - cleaned , pivots polished , lubed etc. ,the tourbillon is more watchwork , I´d look for s specialist for this one. It will be a nice conversation starter when it´s done!
(I have to admit that I have bought one for myself about the same time ago )
Burkhard

 

[Darrmann39]

my guess is that this tourbillon is of chinese manufacture , about 20years old and certainly neglected for a long time . It´s not the quality of high end swiss tourbillons but if You get it running it´s nice to look at and to explain the principle of a tourbillon.
The movement should be treated like any old clock movement - cleaned , pivots polished , lubed etc. ,the tourbillon is more watchwork , I´d look for s specialist for this one. It will be a nice conversation starter when it´s done!
(I have to admit that I have bought one for myself about the same time ago )
Burkhard

It's running fine but sure needs a good cleaning. Thanks

 

[Darrmann39]

Very odd indeed! I have never seen an escapement like that. I don't think it's very old and I don't think it's in the original case but that's about as far as I can go. Why does it look so rusty?

If I had to guess, I would say it is home made but whoever worked out that escapment certainly has skill.

Would be interested to hear what others think.

JTD

I'm thinking it was made to look dark by chemical reaction somehow. It's all brass and will look great once cleaned but it's a hell of a lot of work. Here's the case almost done.

 

[Darrmann39]

Took it all apart , the hour tube was held on

It ought to be stunning once you get it cleaned up! It's super that the curved glass is intact!

It turned out great. Only mark on it was a 17 stamped in the inside bottom.

 

[Schatznut]

Wow, you do nice work - that is absolutely superb. Bravo!

 

[Darrmann39]

Wow, you do nice work - that is absolutely superb. Bravo!

Thanks it was a lot of work