Can anyone date this Agassiz pocket watch?

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  1. Daniel Johnson

    Daniel Johnson New Member

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    I inherited this watch that was originally owned by great great grandfather. From what I have gathered from numerous pictures and info from websites is that it is an Agassiz watch made around the1880's. There is a bunch of etchings inside the case that I haven't decoded yet but I've inserted pictures below. The watch works fine just need to get it cleaned and oiled. I know there isn't a whole lot of data out there with Agassiz watches and I figured I'd post mine to see if anyone had some knowledge they could share. I can post more pictures if needed.

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  2. John Cote

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    I think that the serial number on the movement of your watch probably dates it to closer to 1890 or to the early 1890s than the 1880s. I am not sure it is possible to be completely sure about dating Agassiz. This is a very high grade watch and it appears to be in a very heavy 18k solid gold case. Agassiz was probably just a step below Patek Phillippe in quality and recognition at the time this watch was manufactured. Today they are certainly not as valuable as a contemporary Patek. They made great watches. I can't really see if there are cap jewels on the escape wheel or the pallet fork but I would say that this is probably a 20 jewel watch. Congrats on having a very nice family heirloom.
     
  3. viclip

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    Yes a very nice watch.

    Agassiz morphed into Longines, they have records going back a long ways evidently.

    Try contacting Longines to see whether their records include those of Agassiz ~

    Obtain a Longines certificate of authenticity
     
  4. zedric

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    You say "There is a bunch of etchings inside the case that I haven't decoded yet" - I assume that you are referring to the numbers/letters scratched onto the case.. If so, these are most likely marks made by people who serviced/repaired that watch in the past, and while they form part of the history of the watch, they are essentially meaningless unless you know the repairman who did the work.
     
  5. rrwatch

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    Enlarging the movement scan shows cap jewels on both the pallet and escape wheels, verifying John's conclusion that this is a 20 jewel movement. It also appears to have platinum meantime screws and a counterpoised pallet fork. A very high grade watch in a beautiful case..
     
  6. viclip

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    I just remembered that I had managed to date an Agassiz movement bearing serial number 47304 to the 1880s.

    My movement is in a private label watch that was contracted for by Roehm & Wright, which jewellers operated under that name in Detroit during the 1880s.

    Thus your movement serial number 34045 likely was produced no later than mine thus having been made in the 1880s or earlier.
     
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