Can any of you identify this movement?

[Talyinka]

I recently found this partial movement in a box of clock parts - I sometimes buy the contents of closed clock workshops.

It is stamped "W&E, Sch." as far as I can see (because of double-stamping the mark is not clear) and signed in pencil. See attached photos.

Does anybody know what it is?

 

[Tinker Dwight]

Hi
I think the letters below the W&E are Suh.
You might try making a rubbing to get a clearer picture.
It looks like someone didn't like the original stamping and
X'd it out.
I hope you can straighten the center shaft. It is interesting
that it also has a winding limiter ( forget what it is called ).
I suspect that was rare to be found on wood plate clocks.
Tinker Dwight

 

[soaringjoy]

Perhaps I'm daydreaming, but it looks a lot like W&H Sch.,which would be
Winterhalder & Hofmeier, Schwärzenbach.
They did start out with wooden BF movements, but then slowly changed to
"English" types of massive movements around 1850.
The shown movement could be an intermediate type - I don't know, I've never
seen one, I'm afraid, but it is known, that the UK was the major market for W&H.
Puzzled...

 

[Talyinka]

Perhaps I'm daydreaming, but it looks a lot like W&H Sch.,which would be
Winterhalder & Hofmeier, Schwärzenbach.

That's exactly what is says - thanks.

I think the signature reads Michael Gyhla. The digit '5' is stamped in next to the signature.

I have never seen anything similar before. It is fitted with brass bushings and sports nice lantern pivots. I only wish the rest of the parts were there...

 

[soaringjoy]

I can imagine 2 possibilities right away:

1. Clean it up anddisplay in glass case.

2. Donate it to a clock museum.

 

[Talyinka]

I can imagine 2 possibilities right away:

1. Clean it up anddisplay in glass case.

2. Donate it to a clock museum.

Yes, there is in fact a W&H collection in one of the Black Forest villages - I shall get in touch with he curator there, perhaps drop in next time I'm in the area (one of our favourite areas in Europe) .

 

[Talyinka]

FYI:

I have now heard from Mr. Hubert Vogelbacher, keeper of the clock collection at the Cafe Pension Feldbergblick in Schwarzwald.

He confirms, based on the photos, that this is indeed a movement from Winterhalder und Hofmeier and dates it to around 1855.

 

[Talyinka]

Just to round off this thread: I put the movement up on Ebay at a symbolic price, and it is on its way to Australia.