Bunn Special case

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  1. rolandantrobus

    rolandantrobus Registered User

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    I am a newbie Illinois collector and have just bought my second watch, a Bunn Special serial num 4245127 in a Wadsworth pilot 25yr screw back and front case. My question is could this case be original? The reason I ask is my other Bunn Special a 60hr one has Bunn Special engraved on the inside of the case whereas this one does not. I know I should have asked this question before I bought it but I just couldn't resist it. Also any more information about it would be useful. $_32 (11).jpg $_32 (3).jpg $_32 (2).jpg
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  2. Steven Thornberry

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    To my eye, the case seems not to have held another movement, which is a point in favor of originality. I think the Bunn Specials were sold as movements only until the mid-1920's, to be cased by the retailer. Illinois subsequently made them available as cased watches, though they also continued to sell them as movements only.
     
  3. terry hall

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    my eye is not detecting 'extra' case screw marks in the only image provided. In hand it would be an 'instant' tell.
    this model 9 has the potential of being cased at jeweler... so yes, potential original watch, even with the 'longish' pendant stem.
     
  4. Kent

    Kent Registered User
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    rolandantrobus:

    To echo what Steven and terry have posted and add to it:

    Bunn Special serial number 4245127 was built in 1923 according to information contained in Russell W Snyder's Illinois Data Base CD. At that time, it was sold as a movement only, to be cased by the retailer at the time of initial sale to the customer in his/her choice of case - or as shown in the 1923 J.M. Lyon & Co. ad below, offered in the retailer's choice of case.

    It would be about two years later that Illinois offered the Bunn Special in a choice of factory, Bunn Special signed, cases. Nevertheless, the Bunn Special continued to be offered as a movement only to be cases by others at least as late as 1928 (and probably later).

    So, it is very possible that your movement was originally cased in a Wadsworth Watch Case Co. Pilot grade case.

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  5. rolandantrobus

    rolandantrobus Registered User

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    Many thanks to everyone for their contributions here. It's been a great help.
     

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