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Black Forest Shield Clock Help!

BWA

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Hi ALL
I've been reading here for several years but this is my first request!!
I bought this old clock and cannot read the name or identify the marks that I've found!
I am looking for a maker and year of construction.
Any and all help is appreciated
Thanks for looking!

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Burkhard Rasch

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I´d read it as Jakob T...ler (maybe Tischler??) in Güthenbach No.7 , could be wrong though...
A nice late BF shield clock made ca 1880+- per the construction of the movement with full metal wheels (not the wooden bobins used earlier.)
ID is the mark of the G´stellmacher , the maker of the cage.
HTH
Burkhard
 

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I agree with the Jakob. As for the last name, I believe the second letter is 'a', rather than 'i' (I am looking at the 'a' in the town name to compare). If the initial letter of the surname is T, then perhaps we have Taller, but that is not such a common name. On one of the OP's pictures I fancy I can almost see the little cross-stroke of an 'F', which would make the possibility of Faller, a very common name in the area. But I agree the cross-stroke is very faint and perhaps I am imagining it.

As for the town, I think it is Güttenbach, nowadays written Gütenbach, a place well-known for clockmakers.

There were a lot of Fallers working in Gütenbach. Abeler lists a Jakob Faller working in Gütenbach in the first half of the 19th century. There was also a company of Faller & Sohn, founded in 1843, making cuckoo clocks and Schottenuhren; the company was sold to Badische Uhrenfabrik in 1895.

So all-in-all, I am going with the name Faller, but, as always, I may be wrong.

JTD
 

BWA

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I agree with the Jakob. As for the last name, I believe the second letter is 'a', rather than 'i' (I am looking at the 'a' in the town name to compare). If the initial letter of the surname is T, then perhaps we have Taller, but that is not such a common name. On one of the OP's pictures I fancy I can almost see the little cross-stroke of an 'F', which would make the possibility of Faller, a very common name in the area. But I agree the cross-stroke is very faint and perhaps I am imagining it.

As for the town, I think it is Güttenbach, nowadays written Gütenbach, a place well-known for clockmakers.

There were a lot of Fallers working in Gütenbach. Abeler lists a Jakob Faller working in Gütenbach in the first half of the 19th century. There was also a company of Faller & Sohn, founded in 1843, making cuckoo clocks and Schottenuhren; the company was sold to Badische Uhrenfabrik in 1895.

So all-in-all, I am going with the name Faller, but, as always, I may be wrong.

JTD
I´d read it as Jakob T...ler (maybe Tischler??) in Güthenbach No.7 , could be wrong though...
A nice late BF shield clock made ca 1880+- per the construction of the movement with full metal wheels (not the wooden bobins used earlier.)
ID is the mark of the G´stellmacher , the maker of the cage.
HTH
Burkhard
Thanks for the info., it doesn't show up very well but there is a one after the seven; No 71 i guess!
 

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Thanks for the info., it doesn't show up very well but there is a one after the seven; No 71 i guess!
Yes, the 71 could be the house number in the village of Gütenbach (small places in those days did not always use street names). Or I suppose it could the number of the clock.

JTD
 

BWA

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I´d read it as Jakob T...ler (maybe Tischler??) in Güthenbach No.7 , could be wrong though...
A nice late BF shield clock made ca 1880+- per the construction of the movement with full metal wheels (not the wooden bobins used earlier.)
ID is the mark of the G´stellmacher , the maker of the cage.
HTH
Burkhard
Thanks Burkhand, the clock does have wooden spooIs, will attach a few pics!

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BWA

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Just for the sake of interest here are a few pics of the case it came in. The case is old with square nails and hand cut screws.
Again, my thanks to all who help those of us who are newer and less knowledgeable of a shared interest!

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Burkhard Rasch

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Your movement would be called a full metall clock despite the drums for the ropes are wood. The earlier "holzgespindelte" mvmts. used wooden bobins on all arbors.That´s what I meant. A verry nice case btw , probably made localy, i.e. in the USA.
Burkhard

ps I agree with Faller being the name probably.
 
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