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  1. Dreamer-Amy1984

    Dreamer-Amy1984 New Member

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    I have been handed down a pocket watch that is stamped Billodes but I can't seem to find a lot of information online about them?
    I searched the forum and some posts suggested they are cheap and brass but the case appearance looks and is stamped with 18k
    Does anybody know any history on the pocket watch and what it's rough value would be for insurance?
    Thank you, I am new and hoping this post is ok

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  2. Andy Dervan

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    Probably Swiss
    I would be suspicious if it was 18K solid gold case. It is probably gold filled and more likely 14K gold filled

    We are not supposed to discuss values on message board - share information on the items

    This thread should be moved to European pocket watches for better exposure - hopefully the moderator will do it.

    Andy Dervan
     
  3. pmwas

    pmwas Registered User

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    Billodes watches were made around 1900 by Georges Favre Jacot factory in LeLocle, currently Zenith. Very nice watch it seems to be...
     
  4. MartyR

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    I too am suspicious of the 18K designation, even though the case cover in photo #3 does also have a punch of the Helvetia head in profile - the Swiss assay mark for 18K gold. The case cover looks over-polished to me, and the Helvetia head is correspondingly worn; the 18K punch is sharp and fresh but is not properly centred within the cover and nor is the serial number. I'm not saying that this is not 18K gold ... but I would not rely on the punches to determine that it is ;) If the watch value is important to you, I would suggest you go into a large pawnbroker and ask them if they have an electronic analyser, and if so ask them to test the case.

    The movement looks low-to-medium grade to me and not in the best condition.
     
  5. Steven Thornberry

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    A recent change in policy now allows value discussions in any of the forums. So, her request is proper.
     
  6. pmwas

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    The movement is higher grade Billodes. Which does not mean it’s super high grade, as Billodes was a mid-grade brand itself. One must notice that GFJ was among the first mass-making plants in Switzerland and at the time Swiss mass made mvts were technologically interior to American - it is a pre-Zenith movement... but good enough.
     
  7. Ethan Lipsig

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    Dreamer-Amy 1984, your watch may have great sentimental value but its market value probably is less than 150 pounds unless the case is solid gold, in which case it would be worth about what a gold scrapper would pay for the case, which might be up to 1000 pounds, or even more, depending on the gold content. Even if the watch has a solid gold case, I doubt it is worth enough to bother about insurance.

    For recent sale prices of Billodes pocket watches on eBay, see Billodes pocket watch for sale | eBay.
     
  8. Dr. Jon

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    The case is hall marked for 18K gold so it is very likkely to be solid gold. The marking "18k" has no significance but the stamped woman's head looks a lot like the real Helvetica hallmark. A closer look may show it to be fraudulent but I doubt Zenith would have done such a thing.
     
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  9. Dreamer-Amy1984

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    #9 Dreamer-Amy1984, May 12, 2020
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    Ooo, this may have been me, they were in my Mums loft for a very long time so I gave them a polish.
     
  10. Dreamer-Amy1984

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    Thank you everybody for your feedback. It is the case that seems to course confusions I think? I will keep it safe and take it to see if it is gold once things are a bit more back to normal here, out of curiosity more than anything
     
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  11. JTD

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    No, it wasn't you. One polish doesn't do it - it needs to have been polished regularly over the years for any 'over polishing' to become evident. So you can blame your Mum (probably)!

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