BIELEFELDT LONDON POCKET WATCH

James The Swede

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Hi can anyone tell me more about this watch? The maker, the year, it works soooo well and in great condition. Many thanks in advance ;)

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JTD

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I can't help you with your watch, but your enquiry might be better in the European pocket watch section.

A moderator can move it for you if he agrees.

JTD
 

James The Swede

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I can't help you with your watch, but your enquiry might be better in the European pocket watch section.

A moderator can move it for you if he agrees.

JTD
Hi JTD, do you think this is a very unusual watch, nobody has answered the enqiury? Or am doing something wrong? Best regards James
 

gmorse

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Hi James,

do you think this is a very unusual watch, nobody has answered the enqiury? Or am doing something wrong?
No, you've done nothing wrong, but I think that whoever signed that movement and dial was guilty of some misdemeanor, because I believe neither the movement nor the case was made in the UK at all, and those signatures were an attempt to deceive. Perhaps you could post some pictures of the edge of the movement, which would help to clarify its origins. London watchmaking had such a high reputation around the world at the time that it was not uncommon for fakers to use it in an attempt to provide some legitimacy for their counterfeits.

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Graham
 

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Hi James,

Yes, they are very useful. They confirm that this is as I suggested, a watch intended to resemble a London piece but probably made in Switzerland or perhaps France. The pillar shape is typical of these watches, and the arrangement between the plates (arrowed in the picture) for adjusting the escape wheel, isn't seen in English watches.

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Graham
 

eri231

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this name is in a list of bogus brands with different variants but all fake

" Bielefeld / Bielefeldt / Biefeld / Beefield / C. Beefield / Beifield / Bedefeld / Bidefeldt / Byfield London "

usually German made

regards enrico
 

James The Swede

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this name is in a list of bogus brands with different variants but all fake

" Bielefeld / Bielefeldt / Biefeld / Beefield / C. Beefield / Beifield / Bedefeld / Bidefeldt / Byfield London "

regards enrico
Hi all and thanks again for such professional help. When do you think it was made?
 

eri231

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In the two centers of the Black Forest and Friedberg were very active around 1840/50
pictured one of the features of these fakes

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regards enrico
 
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