Bawo & Dotter Bronze Westminster - need identification

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  1. Dave T

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    Looking for any information on this clock. These are the only two pictures I have, but the owner thinks it's a "Johan". Probably Junghans? Looks like the case is Bronze.
    bronze Bawd & Dotter 2.jpg bronze Bawd & Dotter 1.jpg
     
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    Johan does sound like a rendition of Junghans, but we would need to see the movement to be absolutely sure.
     
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    I'd say it is most likely it is a M. Bauerle movement, judging by the location of the winding arbors. I've not seen a 3 train Junghans with those winding arbor positions. As Steven said, pictures would be most helpful.

    Beautiful clock.
     
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    Yup, I asked for pictures of the movement, but so far they aren't available.
     
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    #5 Steven Thornberry, Jun 10, 2019
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    There are connections between Bawo & Dotter and M. Bäuerle.
     
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    Here we go, got the movement picture and a couple more.
    bronze Bawd & Dotter 4.jpg bronze Bawd & Dotter 5.jpg bronze Bawd & Dotter 3.jpg
     
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    It looks as if there may be a maker's logo hidden behind the pendulum shaft. Can you post a photo without the pendulum in the way?

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    I'll try to get another picture. Most of the clocks I've found so far, with the same name (on the dial) are Grandfather clocks of the early 1900s.
     
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    Definitely an M. Bäuerle movement, which were commonly used by Bawo & Dotter (Charles Jacques) on their quality chime clocks. Westminster chime on 4 coil gongs, hours counted on a 5th coil gong, giving a deep mellow sound reminiscent of cathedral bells. The metal cases are extremely scarce and this is a particularly nice one. Neo-Gothic styling was all the rage in early 20th century America which saw the rise of several Gothic "beehive" mantel clocks from several companies. It's like a little baby cathedral, complete with its "bells".
     
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    #10 Dave T, Jun 12, 2019
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    Thanks Justin, I was hoping you'd "chime" in.
    I'd love to hear it. Maybe I can find one on Youtube.
    Talked to the guy that was telling me about this clock. Seems his friend bought it at an auction, and it doesn't run. But the friend most likely won't repair it.
    I would imagine a little beat adjustment and maybe clean and oil will put it back in service.
     

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