Barraud, London 8736

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  1. Allan C. Purcell

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    Today a watch arrived here, and I have to admit I was worried that all my nightmares were inside the box delivered by our post lady.

    It all started on seeing it at auction, and I remember quite clearly my reaction was leave it well alone, you don't want that coin silver case that is hanging onto a very nice Barraud watch, the case looked totally out of place, and I had also seen what should have been a Duplex, had been converted to STR. Plus the watch was in Turkey, false impressions of course. (He had 100% and had been a member for years) Anyway, I managed to ignore it. (wrong) I kept going back, it was the hands you see, in my opinion, they were original, and I could not get over how perfect the dial was. (Could it be so good after 200 years, don´t buy it) So I offered him a price, and he accepted it. I was even more worried now. That was on Thursday or Friday last, and here it was, he´s got to be a member of the mafia I thought. It lay on my desk a while, and it did not move, and it did not smell, so risked it and found it was well packed, and there was something quite heavy in all that bubble wrap.

    Well, Still sweating, I found something I had never seen before, a coin Siver case. I had seen them on this board, of course, dull little grey things, and here was the wonderful heavy shiny case smiling at me. Things were getting better, it also has gold hinges, plus no hallmarks, so no research on the case:)."WARRANTED COIN SILVER" I then saw the number on the case 8736 MMMmm, had Barraud made the case too?? You can tell my nerves were on edge, I then saw the winding button So the chap who had taken so much effort to build this case around the Barraud had put the number there too.

    I then pressed the winding button, and all my worries disappeared. (See below)

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    178 Gr. Full Hunter case

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    Hands in gold in the latest fashion of the early 19th century, and perfect dial.

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    Barraud´s watch movement, it still as issues but my watchmaker can sort them if we all get through the second wave. to end this bit, I am very pleased with this buy, but I will try not to be so impulsive in future.

    More next year when the watch is running correctly. I am also converted to coin silver cases

    Allan
     
  2. pmwas

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    Nice watch... looks like duplex or cylinder escapement, right?
     
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    #3 Tom McIntyre, Jul 27, 2020
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    Alan, I was looking at that watch and decided to look at what movements David Penney had on his site. I decided to buy David's and spend some time trying to make some sense of these early movements. Here are the pictures that I currently have on my AWCo site all together to try to see what patterns, if any, might exist.
     
  4. Allan C. Purcell

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    I would say it was a Duplex but it is now an STR. I think the watch as had a rough time over at least the last hundred years, gold case ripped out, then the conversion, and then the re-build. I am just pleased it survived.

    Allan.
     
  5. Allan C. Purcell

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    Thanks, Tom, I intend to pay more attention to these watches when working on the new Barraud numbers file. In Jagger, the supplement 8860 was in a gold pair case HM 1815. So all made before P.P Barrauds death in 1820.
     

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