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banjo clock, a-frame movement, c1830s

Bruce Barnes

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Absolutely beautiful !! I love the all wood timepieces.
I have one similar to yours.........
Bruce #3

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i love the wood, but it was the a-frame movement that called to me... not a lot of those puppies around.... except for Jim DuBois, of course, who probably has a dozen of them! :)
 

Jim DuBois

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i love the wood, but it was the a-frame movement that called to me... not a lot of those puppies around.... except for Jim DuBois, of course, who probably has a dozen of them! :)
I have a single loose A-frame movement, but sadly no clock to go with it.......by the way, that is an exceptionally nice example you have! Congratulations!

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bruce linde

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i Google searched for “Banjo Clock a frame movement” and this clock in the NAWCC museum was the first listing… note the similar movement, the unusual mounting ears, anchor escapement, and Keystone in front of the hour cannon as opposed to Dee Williams and others who’s keystones road between the minute and hour hand cannons. different chimney and finial but i like mine better. :)


UPDATE: i have reached out to the museum to see if they have photos, if the dial on theirs is also signed by hedrick, and if they take photos as part of the acquisition intake process. i'd be curious to see if their movement is stamped, as mine has '5' on each of the plates.i'm also curious as to how they know it's a wilbour, as it does not look the wilbour in chip eta's book, which steve petrucelli says he was familiar with (including provenance).

i guess i'm learning it's next to impossible to identify many of these timepieces....
 

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heard back from the museum... their clock is a twin of main... same bezel latch and other details, including movement mounting ears. steve petrucelli does not think they were made by job wilbour, but thinks it's great that there appear to have been at least 11 of them...

here are more photos of mine:

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and of the one in the nawcc museum:

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That is a real beauty, Bruce - congrats!
 

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i REALLY want to know who made this... anyone know any a-frame / newport banjo clock experts?
 

Dick C

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What a tangled web is woven.

If this is a Rhode Island area clock, then how did a Lowell Mass dial end up in that area?

George Hedrick (1807 - 1894) is listed in the 1850 census as a Painter (age 41) and in the 1860 census as an Artist (age 51), both in Lowell, MA

The Lowell MA directories in 1834 - 1836 list him as a painter....didn't go any further with these

Now, what is the scratched area on this dial back....it appears to be DURFEE?

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one of the things i've learned in my time here is that stuff scratched into dials and/or movement plates and/or written by hand are not necessarily worth much. someone could have scratched 'durfee' during a misidentification episode, or maybe it was owned once by big tony durfee, from jersey... who knows? :)

what we do know is that hedrick's signature on both dials matches... and that foley says: "A banjo dial signed on the read "G.Hedrick, Painter, Lowell" is in the NAWCC Museum." i believe Peter A. Nunes is forwarding photos and/or this thread to paul for comment (if he has any).

as to your dates, according to foley's book, hedrick was advertising in 1832: "clock and timepiece dials'.

it would be awesome to find other a-frame movements with the same mounting ears... especially if signed/attributed. the only other example i've found is this one, attributed to david williams but stamped (and with dial signature) 'griswold'... but the escape wheel teeth are pointing in the opposite direction and many of the froster-most parts look much cruder: on the other hand, these two and the griswold are the only ones i've found with the mounting ears on the back plate and where the keystone rides in front of the motion works.


and i couldn't find anything about a 'griswold'...
 
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Jim DuBois

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Here is one I owned a long time ago. No ears. The dial said "Williams". Sadly, I have no photos of the case, the dial, or anything else. This is from back in the days when every time you hit the shutter button it cost a buck or maybe 50 cents, so I would guess all the other photos got snail-mailed to someone who bought the clock. And the negatives are long gone too. 20-20 hindsight wins again?

The second I evidently also owned at some time, also no case photos or other details. And the third is a solid backplate, still no ears.

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as with music, good ears are essential... :)
 

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