Ball Official RR Standard silver tone pocketwatch

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I found a Ball Official RR Standard silver tone open face pocket watch at a thrift store recently and I'm having trouble dating it. It has a plastic/celluloid crystal, is 19 jewel and I think 16s. Serial number is B0505673. The back has an engraving of a train that is badly worn. From the little research I've done it appears to possibly be late 1800s? But the serial numbers I've seen don't start until the B060000s. I would appreciate any help that I can receive.
 
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I wish I had my Townsend book in front of me...

I am certain someone more helpful will arrive.
 

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In the database that Kent and I maintain we show a Waltham Ball run from SN B 0505501 to B 0506000. Most, but not all of the examples we recorded (8 of 11), are 19 jewel, the other three are 17 jewel.
I believe that your case is a later replacement, probably from the 1930's.
You have a nice, higher grade watch, but get that yellowed crystal replaced as soon as possible, it is already starting to cause corrosion to the hands due to the out-gassing from the old crystal as it ages. The newer plastic crystals will not cause this problem, but most RR watch collectors prefer glass crystals.
 
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Townsend's book doesn't cover the B0500000 range of numbers.

It is a poor recase in a newer Base metal modern case from the 1930-40's, it would have come in a Ball Model case.

There is serial number B0561153 shown on the PWDB site. These watches were all based on Model 1899 Waltham.
 

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Nice find!
And I would like to add my welcome to the NAWCC Forum.


Rob
 
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Previously, I have shared the attached document that summarises the results of my research on these Ball 16s ORRS watch movements. It shows that B 0505673 is from the sixth run of ORRS serial numbers, a run that was allocated by Waltham in 1901. The Waltham serial number would have been 10505673.
 

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John,
Thank you for the research work and documenting it, for all to use.

I printed out the 2 pages and filed in Col. Townsend's book for future use. :clap:
 
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