Back after some time away from here.

[The Stickman]

Well I have been away for some time. But today brought me back to clocks in a big way. I had been wanting a Junghans Bracket clock in a big way. Awhile back there were 2 at an auction that I wanted in the worst way. I simply could bid no higher. Around here you simply don't see Junghans clocks in antique stores. It really doesn't happen. And yet somehow in the same town two antique stores a block away from each other each had one. The one place has most industrial type stuff. I go in looking for fans which he usually has a bunch of. And there was this lonely Junghans. New what it was right away. Not sure he did. I bought it and a fan for a great price. Only to walk up the street and find another. We had walked that entire store and were on our way out when for some reason I walked over to where you can step down to the stuff in the front window. A place I never really look. There it was on a table. A Junghans Bracket clock. It was in much better shape than the other and the price showed. And yet it was still under what I had bid for that one at that auction. But I had just spent alot at the other place a block away. My room mate said it was simply to good an opprotunity to pass up and bought it for me, along with a William Beatty & sons axe which she says I need as I collect meat cleavers from that company. So I walked out of yet another store with a Junghans. Maybe I should have taken spotting another Junghans last night as an Omen. Hopefully it will find it's way home to me too. Now let's discuss these clocks will we. The first I am not sure of the style. Is it also considered a Carrige clock? It also says A/42. Now after some research I see some believe it is not a 1942 clock but a 1924 clock. Would this be correct or would this be a war time clock?



Here is the prettier one. I was told it was cleaned and working. I can not get it to stay running but did little with it after getting home in the afternoon as we left shortly after to visit my parents. Maybe it was not balanced or maybe the ride through it off even though I removed the pendulum. It does chime and strike, although it doesn't chime the correctly at the correct quarter hour. ANd being away from here for so long I have forgotten how to get it corrected. This one is an A/10.






All in all I am very pleased to have these in my collection. It was a great day where I went looking for a display case and came home with two clocks, a fan, and an axe, as odd as that is to say.

 

[J. A. Olson]

Welcome back, and nice Junghans clocks you have. I'd think the first clock is from the 1920's.

 

[Richard T.]

Welcome back.

The alpha/numeric codes are date codes. The first clock is what is called a "beehive" or "lancet" style and the A42 stands for the first half of 1924.

The second clock was made the first half of 1910. Both are Westminster chime clocks.

A carriage clock is usually a much smaller brass and glass clock with a handle on top. It was carried in the carriage when traveling.
There are very large carriage clocks but they aren't seen that often.

When clocks are moved they usually get "out of beat" and the beat has to be reset. I believe there is a "sticky" at the top of the clock repair forum about how to do this.

Enjoy!

Best,

Richard T.

 

[shutterbug]

Very nice find! Welcome back, and don't be a stranger again

 

[soaringjoy]

Hi Stick, welcome back.
Now that I know, you also collect meat cleavers, I'll be nice and
friendly and will give you all the infos you need with a big smile.

So, I'll have to jump in on the date codes.
For the years 1923, 1924 and 1925 Junghans switched the numerals
- it is not known, why - and A42 is actually "A24", meaning first half of 1924.

The term carriage clock derived from the French word "carriage" (aka: carrying)
meaning a clock to be carried around. It was not connected with horse drawn carriages, afaik.

Your clocks are "bracket" and were often placed on matching wall brackets.
The Germans called them "Stutzuhren" (stutz = shortened) because they resembled the
head pieces of tall case clocks in miniature.

 

[The Stickman]

Hi Stick, welcome back.
Now that I know, you also collect meat cleavers, I'll be nice and
friendly and will give you all the infos you need with a big smile.

So, I'll have to jump in on the date codes.
For the years 1923, 1924 and 1925 Junghans switched the numerals
- it is not known, why - and A42 is actually "A24", meaning first half of 1924.

The term carriage clock derived from the French word "carriage" (aka: carrying)
meaning a clock to be carried around. It was not connected with horse drawn carriages, afaik.

Your clocks are "bracket" and were often placed on matching wall brackets.
The Germans called them "Stutzuhren" (stutz = shortened) because they resembled the
head pieces of tall case clocks in miniature.

Ok so I get that the date codes were reversed for those three years. But then what codes did they use in say 1932? And yes I collect meat cleavers. Mostly because I like to cook, and that is my favorite knife to use in the kitchen Plus I think they look cool. But along with that my cleavers are my oldest antiques. Most are atleast 150 years old and atleast on we think is more than 200 years old. And for some reason, I keep finding ones from the same family which made edged tools, hencxe the reasong for buying the axe.

 

[Richard T.]

Carriage clock history: http://www.frostbros.com/product/carriage_his.html

Best,

Richard T.

 

[soaringjoy]

Yupp, I know, Richard.
I'm off for a couple of days now, so I can't look for the info at the moment.
Originally, the clocks started out as "pendules de voyages", simply travelling clocks.
The smaller ones were then often known as "horologes d' officiers", officer's clocks, too.
Afaik, English horologists refer to the general species of traveling clocks, but do make a differnece
between a "coach clock" and a "carriage clock".
I believe, the term carriage clock evolved through time in general public use.
As said, I believe. Perhaps it is in fact amore idelological matter.

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-French-Made-Carriage-Clocks&id=3095183

http://www.opatrizzi.com/Portals/0/W1/02_articles_articoli/Carriage.pdf

 

[The Stickman]

Well I think the A/10 one was just upset by the move. I did nothing but swing the pendulum after the times it stopped. Then it just kept working after the last time and has been keeping dead solid time. Really a great purchase. Now to look after the more neglected one.

 

[Kevin W.]

Nice to see you back Stickman, some really nice clocks there, i like the Junghans clock, need one in my collection some day.

 

[The Stickman]

Nice to see you back Stickman, some really nice clocks there, i like the Junghans clock, need one in my collection some day.

These are actually the 6th and 7th ones I have bought. The first was my first ever reall clock. But it was never really mine as it was always for my neices wedding present. I brought it home put on the wall and it worked beautifully. I loved it so much that after giving it to them I needed another. Only one failed to work(still working on the one bracket clcok though) after I brought them home. The A/10 bracket keeps wonderful time. You really would have a hard time going wrong with one.