B. W. Raymond

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There isn't aren't the initials B. W. on this movement, but here is a tiny Lady Raymond 5/0s
circa 1916 Grade 399

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I got this recently BWR 571 (ser. no. I47270 ) recently mainly because I believe it to be from last run of 16s pocket watches assembled with parts made in the U.S. with factory made parts. Dates for the serial number put it somewhere between 1954 and 1955 for the watch being completed. I think there may have been some smaller 10 size(?) pocket watches made after this but not certain.




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I got this recently BWR 571 (ser. no. I47270 ) recently mainly because I believe it to be from last run of 16s pocket watches assembled with parts made in the U.S. with factory made parts. Dates for the serial number put it somewhere between 1954 and 1955 for the watch being completed. I think there may have been some smaller 10 size(?) pocket watches made after this but not certain.
The last run of 16s pocket watches from Elgin was actually I 367001 to I388001. This has been documented in Kent Singer and Ed Ueberall's excellent Bulletin articles from 1995 and 1996.

I own I387972 (see below), and a couple years back, I387960 was sold on Ebay with all the original papers, including a factory information slip indicating that it had been completed and released on 12/4/1965 (see farther below)
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Benjamin Wright Raymond - Wikipedia
"was an American politician who twice served as mayor of Chicago, Illinois"
Elgin National Watch Co. Threads with Research and other General Information

He was also the first president(1864-1867) of the National Watch Company(which later changed its name the
The Elgin National Watch Company). The watches named for B W Raymond were made
throughout Elgins lifetime(circa 1864-1968). In addition, the 18 size B.W. Raymond was The National
Watch Companies(Elgin's) first production watch. For a majority of Elgin's lifetime the B.W. Raymond
was the top of the line RR watch for Elgin.(before and after when the Veritas and Father Time were around)
Elgin made 18 size, 16 size and 12 size BWR's. There were even B.W. Raymond wrist watches.
And not to forget the Lady Raymond.

After some digging I realized that this was my first BWR (16s 21j from 1928)
This is my everyday watch. I bought this particular one because I wanted to use it everyday
without worrying about it. The movement is far from perfect(cosmetically)
but mechanically it run's very well. The case is also well worn and they made a lot of the BWR 478's.

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I got this recently BWR 571 (ser. no. I47270 ) recently mainly because I believe it to be from last run of 16s pocket watches assembled with parts made in the U.S. with factory made parts. Dates for the serial number put it somewhere between 1954 and 1955 for the watch being completed. I think there may have been some smaller 10 size(?) pocket watches made after this but not certain.
There were 543(Lord Elgin) and perhaps 542(Elgin De Luxe) movements made without serial numbers, which means they're probably post-1954-55. That was about the time that Elgin stopped stamping serial numbers, at the end of the 'I' prefix serials. I don't know when they were made, except that it was almost certainly post-1955.
 

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Grade 372 B W Raymond 19j from Ontario, Canada

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I found this yesterday. It was advertised as a 21 Jewel Elgin. So, I took a chance and bought it. It turns out to be a B. W. Raymond, 21 jewel, Grade 478 from ca. 1933, SN 33868293. It's in a 10K GF Keystone J. Boss case, marked cased and timed by Elgin National Watch Co. Timed, of course, to the stars.

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Very nice!

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