Aurora 113

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  1. DeweyC

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    What this was doing in an old Soviet State (Georgia) I have no idea. You can still hints of the red plating on the screws.

    Is the regulator low karat gold?

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  2. musicguy

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    I have purchased movements from a seller in Georgia thinking
    it was from the state in the USA. I did ask him where he got so many
    movements and watches and he told me he has someone in the US
    get them for him(ships them to him in bulk) and he then sells them on Ebay. Weirdly his shipping
    is not very high from Georgia but it does taka bit to get them. Maybe it's
    the same seller.


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  3. DeweyC

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    Rob,

    Sounds like the same seller. I wonder how that works commercially? I only paid $100; profit? Maybe communism way of business?

    BTW, I almost ventured into Columbus but I read your post about staying on mission. Thanks; while interesting, it did not fit my mission of Perry/Rood/Cain.
     
  4. John Cote

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    I have one of those. They are really good looking watches. I don't have as cool a purchase story. I think I bought it from a good friend at the old NAWCC Drawbridge Regional a number of years ago.

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  5. Greg Frauenhoff

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    Fantastic example. Thanks for the pic.
     
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    Thanks Greg. I try to stick with my mantra of building a collection instead of an accumulation. Buying this watch sort of violated this rule. While I love Aurora...mainly from having your book and admiring your pictures over the years, I can't collect everything. That said, when I saw this crispy example on a mart table at the price you might expect to pay for a sad example, it was easy to violate all of my rules.
     
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  8. Greg Frauenhoff

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    For those who want to know...

    Auroras grade 113 (made in both hunting and open-face) appears late in the Company's production (1890-1892). It's general characteristics, based on the 1891 net price list), are 15j, adjusted, Breguet hairspring AND red gold trim. The later finish (on the screws and regulator) did not hold up well under cleaning, etc., so on many examples only remnants remain. The screws are usually the worst off.

    Serial numbers are almost always in the 74xxx and 75xxx range and the damaskeening and lettering are (almost) invariably the same. To add to the examples above some others are shown below.

    #75404
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    #75119 (private label)
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    #75945 (partial)
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    EXCEPTIONS. Nothing about Aurora is completely straightforward. A small hand full of mvts with red gold trim and the 113 damaskeening are known with serial numbers in the 8xxxx range (including one for Webb C. Ball). Are they grade no. 8s or 113s? Probably 113s. Also, a small number of mvts with red gold trim BUT not damaskeened like 113s are known with serial numbers in the 142xxx range. 113s or others? My guess is others, probably unusually finished grade no. 109s.

    And then there is a factory error.
    #95897 (internally numbered 75897, which is consistent with a grade 113)
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  9. DeweyC

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    Thank you Greg.
     

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