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The crossed arrows are the trademark of Hamburg American Company (HAC / HAU), a German clock maker.View attachment 632192 View attachment 632193 Can anyone identify this movement? No marks just two arrows crossed.
Good movement? It’s in a walnut case that needs some help. Worth putting some time and money into? Thanks for the informationThe crossed arrows are the trademark of Hamburg American Company (HAC / HAU), a German clock maker.
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Not mine. Just took it out of the case tonight. I thought the same thing about the print but what if it would lead to someone not so nice. If you get my drift.Wouldn't it be cool to track down, forensically, that finger print? I suspect it's not the new owner. Just a weird thought...the story it might tell.
Kurt
Yes good movement, typical of German movements of that era. I can’t see a date stamp so probably pre 1930. There are plenty of threads here that mention that prior to the Junghans takeover in 1930, HAC did not date movements.
Michael
Yes good movement, typical of German movements of that era. I can’t see a date stamp so probably pre 1930. There are plenty of threads here that mention that prior to the Junghans takeover in 1930, HAC did not date movements.
Michael
Can assure you that it isn't my fingerprint.Wouldn't it be cool to track down, forensically, that finger print? I suspect it's not the new owner. Just a weird thought...the story it might tell.
Kurt
It is possible.Could it be made in May of 1927?
The date coding during the collaboration period and shortly after the takeover of HAC by Junghans (very early 1930s) used different dating protocols than the typical Junghans date coding and were almost always in the upper left corner of the movement like the OP's movement.The date code on my Junghans/HAC mantel clock is formatted: YY space M. e.g. 36 7 (July 1937)
I agree, but the OP thought it could be 105/27. The picture is not the best.Looks to me to be
05/27
330
Yes the numbers on mine are on the lower half of the plate. It's a different style of movement to my mantel clock (earlier?)The date coding during the collaboration period and shortly after the takeover of HAC by Junghans (very early 1930s) used different dating protocols than the typical Junghans date coding and were almost always in the upper left corner of the movement like the OP's movement.
By 1936, I believe the date coding corresponded to the Junghans protocol.
This is why we need to see a better picture of the movement to confirm if the inscription is 05/27 as opposed to 105/27.
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Yes. That's a better photo and it does look like it is a dodgy stamping that should readI can see why you think it might be 105/27. There is the suggestion of the base of the 1 there.
Is the escape wheel tooth count 27? Looks feasible from what can be seen in the movement photo.
The gong block in the case has the HAC crossed arrows logo. Someone more knowledgeable than me may know when that was used. And also if the case is HAC and what period for that style.
Michael
I did some research and the HAC movement number 36 looks like a match (courtesy tarant):So your 105/27 over 360 could be BPM/escape wheel tooth count over a number relating to the pendulum length.
hanks guys I appreciate it. I got it without the pendulum but I had one that fit and it keeps perfect time. I ran it for about a week before I took it apart. I want to clean the movement. Would anyone know what the pendulum should look like? What should I do to dress up the dial? They had the hands on wrong and it rubbed on it. Thanks all.I think the answer is as Micam stated earlier:
I did some research and the HAC movement number 36 looks like a match (courtesy tarant):
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The movement was used by HAC in the 1920s and the dial appears commensurate with the 1920s.
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The dial doesn’t look too bad to me although it’s hard to judge from a photo through glass. Obviously there is some black worn off the numbers in a circular pattern but few 100 year old clocks have pristine dials.T
hanks guys I appreciate it. I got it without the pendulum but I had one that fit and it keeps perfect time. I ran it for about a week before I took it apart. I want to clean the movement. Would anyone know what the pendulum should look like? What should I do to dress up the dial? They had the hands on wrong and it rubbed on it. Thanks all.