Appleton Tracy

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  1. Bill Manders

    Bill Manders Registered User

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    I'm looking at a Appleton Tracy 17 jewel mdl 1883 watch, but in the grey book, in the PW database, and in the Nawcc data systems, they all list that serialnumber to a 15 jewel Crescent street. Is there a definitive answer as to what this watch should be ?
    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  2. Dave Coatsworth

    Dave Coatsworth Super Moderator
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    I think we at least need the serial number...
     
  3. Bill Manders

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    sorry Dave,
    I guess that would help, 6025834.
    Bill
     
  4. Dave Chaplain

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    #4 Dave Chaplain, Apr 11, 2017
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    The handwritten records show it as a small run of 200 Non-Magnetic OF 15J movements (Sept '92 to July '95, which is a relatively long time for a run of 200). The two runs just before it, of 500 HC made Nov '94 to Oct '95, and 300 OF made Oct '94 to Feb '96, each have the note "a few made 17 Jew(els)" ... so it seems that either the Non-Mag run also had a "few made 17 Jew(els)", but did not get the handwritten notation, or the movement stayed in inventory long enough that it was up-jeweled at a later date. We see discrepancies like this a lot, especially from manufacturers who we have the most information on as we can better compare records with watches. The watches themselves, if they've not been modified at a later date, are the true story.

    Dave

    btw - the handwritten records has the 3 runs I mention above as being grade "Crescent St." ... another anomaly which again may mean the watch stayed in inventory long enough to be marked differently to meet a later order for Appleton Tracy & Co movements ... are you sure your number is 6025824 and not 6023824, which is an ATCo run?
     
  5. Bill Manders

    Bill Manders Registered User

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    Hi Dave,
    I just checked again and the serial number off the movement is 6025834. The item has now sold, you know snooze you lose, but the item number if interested is #382032299496.
    It is likely just an anomaly, the run must have been split somewhere.
    Thanks for all the good information.
    Bill
     
  6. Kent

    Kent Registered User
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    Bill:

    When I searched for item number 382032299496, eBay didn't recognize it. Can you post a link to the completed auction?
     
  7. Kent

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    #8 Kent, Apr 11, 2017
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    Thanks Dave:

    Now that I see it, its one of the auctions that I've been waiting to close so that I could list it as an observation. I'll get in up shortly.

    Okay, the observation has been entered in the Waltham Serial Numbers Data Base
     
  8. Dave Chaplain

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    Hi Kent,

    When searching for a listing that has already closed, scroll down and see on the left hand side some check boxes, and under the last heading "Show only" be sure to check the "Sold listings" box. Then you'll be able to search for a completed listing.

    Dave
     
  9. topspin

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    And for the benefit of anybody reading this thread in the distant future - even the Sold/completed listings usually get removed after a period of time (measured in months, I believe.) After that time, neither following the link nor searching for the item number will find the item in question.
     
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