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  1. JimmyOz

    JimmyOz Registered User

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    Hi, I was asked by a friend if I new anything about this clock, apart from it being French?, time only and made before 1875? I could not add anything else.
    Has anyone come across a clock like this before, it stands about 12 inches tall, the body is hollow, it looks a lot like copper and has traces of what looks like black paint but not sure.
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  2. Uhralt

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    I don't know either, but it doesn't have the typical French clock look to me. It doesn't have enough finesse. Could it be Asian?

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  3. JTD

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    It doesn't really look French to me either. HAC made a very similar clock (much later), but not with a silk suspension, and with a wooden 'band stand' case . Looking at the dial and hands I think it may well be German. The metal construction of the case is also rather odd. I wonder if someone took an old movement and put it into a newer case.
    Personally it doesn't look Asian to me, but I may well be wrong.

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  4. Uhralt

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    The case let me think of Asia. I agree, the movement and the pendulum have a German look. I'm not quite sure what I see but the cut-out of the case for the pendulum appears to be quite rough. That would speak for a marriage, if true.

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  5. JimmyOz

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    Thanks guys, as you say it all looks wrong, if I had it in my hands I would take the movement out and see what is happening as to the dial attachment. I gave her a call and she said the pendulum was also hollow, I can sit with Asian as I really have no idea.
     
  6. Les harland

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    The cut out for the pendulum looks very crude with sharp edges and points
    Does the clock work?
    It seems strange that the pendulum is in the same place in all the pictures
     
  7. JimmyOz

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    She said it did not work when I called her, I asked her about the pendulum and she said it was hollow, that is why it is sitting high, maybe just out of beat, however the pivot holes look bad in the last photo. I think she will end up putting it on eBay and see what happens.
     
  8. JTD

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    I really don't think it's Asian.

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  9. new2clocks

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    Some observations in addition to those already suggested ...

    If the case was Asian made, then I assume that it was manually or mechanically "aged" to appear old. But, the two front "pillars" appear to be a lighter color than the two rear pillars and the rest of the case (depending on which pictures you view). This could suggest a legitimate wear pattern from picking up the clock with the front pillars over the years.

    The dial also has a reasonable wear pattern around the winding arbor.

    Having said that, wear patterns are difficult to ascertain through photos.

    Just some observations, I have no clue as to the correct answer:).

    Regards.
     
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    I'd have my doubts about Asian. Strange that somebody cut a bit off the case rather than solve the pendulum issue.
     
  11. brian fisher

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    my thought is that this case probably originally came with a balance wheel movement. the large cutout in the bottom was probably needed with the replacement
     
  12. Uhralt

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    That's what I was thinking too. A marriage.

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  13. bangster

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    I don't think French.
    I don't think Asian
    I think Weird.
     
  14. Willie X

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    I'm with Bangs.

    I do think it would be at home in the
    'Ugly clock' thread, nothing personal.

    Maybe it's Russian. They like designs that are bold and way hefty.

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  15. JimmyOz

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    Not a problem as it is not my clock and I agree it looks all out of proportion, if I ever get the chance to look at it I will take the dial off and see if it was original to the movement or a marriage.
     
  16. brian fisher

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    Do you have an untreated bladder infection? Seems you are getting cranky as of late.
     
  17. JTD

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    It certainly isn't Russian, I cannot imagine why you think it could be. And I don't consider it 'bold' or 'hefty'.

    I still believe the movement is German or Austrian (I had an Austrian clock with very similar dial and hands and silk suspension but sadly long gone).

    As for ugly, well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think that if the metal case and dial was polished up, this clock would be quite attractive, even if it is a marriage, as it may well be.

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  18. Willie X

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    Careful there brian.
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  19. Isaac

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    Yes, I also believe that this clock is a marriage. Many clock cases can be cleaned up and made to look very presentable.

    Also, Willie was just stating his opinion on the clock. It's a pretty mean thing to insult someone who was just voicing his preference.
     
  20. brian fisher

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    opinion? kinda rude and uncalled for i would say. seems like posts like this are starting to become the norm for some reason. its wearing me out.
     
  21. roughbarked

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    He did say, "nothing personal".
     
  22. JimmyOz

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    Hey guys don't fall out over something so trivial.:emoji_peace: :coolsign:
     
  23. roughbarked

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    No wukkas mate. :emoji_peace:
     

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