Any shorthand experts....?

Ralph B

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Not even sure if this is shorthand though it's been suggested to me that it could be Pitman's Shorthand.
I found it scrawled on one of the plates of an English double fusee I'm currently working on.
I'm used to names and dates, but nothing like this and I wondered if it has any meaning.

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I think Pitman's relies on not only the shape but the thickness of the characters which would be difficult to produce using a scriber or the like. Maybe some variety of eastern script?
 

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I think Pitman's relies on not only the shape but the thickness of the characters
That's perfectly true. However, people who are skilled Pitman writers often don't bother with the 'thicks and thins', especially if they are writing something that only they will have to read back.

But I don't think it is Pitman's shorthand. I am still thinking about what it might be..........

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Get as clear a photo of it that you can and put it into Google shorthand translator - see what it says.
 

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Good afternoon!

Just a guess, but something is whispering "Arabic" to me.

Best regards!

Tim Orr
 
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Not even sure if this is shorthand though it's been suggested to me that it could be Pitman's Shorthand.
I found it scrawled on one of the plates of an English double fusee I'm currently working on.
I'm used to names and dates, but nothing like this and I wondered if it has any meaning.

Ralph.
N.Z.

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Sanskrit?

RM.
 

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A long time ago my wife was one of the best at taking shorthand and then retyping her shorthand notes into conventional text. At about 120 WPM. There are several forms of shorthand, and each may have little in common with her version, which was Gregg's shorthand. She is of the opinion the scratches on the movement are a form of shorthand. One word she thinks would be "business" in Gregg's version. Another appears to be "industry" in Gregg's. So what it may mean in the form it is in on the back of a clock movement in NZ is not really clear.

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Ralph B

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Thanks for the replies so far.
I see this turning into a mystery akin to that one where a body was found with encrypted notes on it, and no-one, FBI, NSA, etc, have ever been able to decipher them.
Not quite as important in my case though....

Ralph.

PS.
When I return this clock I'll question the owners as to its history, that may shed a little more light.
 

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My wife, who learned shorthand in NZ, thinks it could be Pitmans, but it’s been too many years since she was fluent...
 

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When you look at a very large view of this image the images are on the brass plate and have been covered by other items.

Do you have a photo of the brass plate with everything removed that is covering the "text"?
 

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When you look at a very large view of this image the images are on the brass plate and have been covered by other items.

Do you have a photo of the brass plate with everything removed that is covering the "text"?

I agree - it would be very helpful to have a photo of the complete plate, and preferably not sideways!

JTD
 

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My wife knows shorthand too, and could not make out a complete sentence.
 

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Devious clockmaker in 1890 decides to confuse and befuddle the next person to work on the clock.

Little does he know, thanks to the Internet, he befuddles several dozen of us.
 

Ralph B

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I agree - it would be very helpful to have a photo of the complete plate, and preferably not sideways!

JTD
I didn't realise it was sideways, it's just the way it presented itself.
The clock is now back together and on test so I'm loathe to pull it apart again just to expose a few more characters when we already have plenty to look at, without making sense of them anyway.
However, if someone is able to show that what's visible says, " all my gold is buried at.....", and we can't see the rest because it's under something, then I'll be in like Flynn ! :)

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However, if someone is able to show that what's visible says, " all my gold is buried at.....", and we can't see the rest because it's under something, then I'll be in like Flynn ! :)
Sorry. I got that gold already That's the advantage of being able to read Hobbit.
 
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Sorry. I got that gold already That's the advantage of being able to read Hobbit.
And the advantage of being an admin, so you can hold up the listing of the post until you've been out with a shovel!:):)
 

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