Any info on William Morgan watchmaker wo

Dan Warrington

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Hello all...... can anyone shed any light on a watchmaker William Morgan?
I found this in a skip/dumpster and best guess is about circa 1795 based on the paperwork inside the case but know very little about the maker
It needs a service but does run
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thanks in advance
 
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gmorse

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Hi Dan, and welcome to the forum,
...can anyone shed any light on a watchmaker William Morgan?
Loomes has a brief entry for a William Morgan working in Dublin 1796-1827, also a jeweller, but he was most probably the retailer, not the maker. At least 40 specialist crafts were involved in making a watch, so attributing it to a single 'maker' isn't a valid concept. It was probably made in one of the small workshops in the Liverpool area. Are the cases silver, and are there any hallmarks visible anywhere on them? Occasionally cases were made and assayed in Dublin but it's unusual to find them, this is more likely to have been assayed in the Chester office.

I think you're not far out with the date, but hallmarks will confirm that if they're present.

Regards,

Graham
 
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Dan Warrington

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Hi Dan, and welcome to the forum,


Loomes has a brief entry for a William Morgan working in Dublin 1796-1827, also a jeweller, but he was most probably the retailer, not the maker. At least 40 specialist crafts were involved in making a watch, so attributing it to a single 'maker' isn't a valid concept. It was probably made in one of the small workshops in the Liverpool area. Are the cases silver, and are there any hallmarks visible anywhere on them? Occasionally cases were made and assayed in Dublin but it's unusual to find them, this is more likely to have been assayed in the Chester office.

I think you're not far out with the date, but hallmarks will confirm that if they're present.

Regards,

Graham
Thanks for the welcome Graham
 

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William Morgan is listed at 135 Capel Street, Dublin. A verge movement #104 is recorded 1805~ and a rack lever #656 1820~.

The watch paper is John Corthorn active 1850-61

Lincoln Directory 1861

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William Morgan is listed at 135 Capel Street, Dublin. A verge movement #104 is recorded 1805~ and a rack lever #656 1820~.

The watch paper is John Corthorn active 1850-61

Lincoln Directory 1861

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John
Thats awesome John!!! There are four sheets of paper in the case, Corthorne being the last so I presume he was the last seller if 104 was 1805 that makes the sheet with 1795 (the 5 is very obscure) a bit of a mystery. Im now going to have to price up a service...... probably more than the watch is actually worth!!! :O
 
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gmorse

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Hi Dan,
Im now going to have to price up a service...... probably more than the watch is actually worth!!! :O
You're almost certainly right about that. Few commercial repairers will touch watches this old and those that do tend to have long waiting lists. Please send me a conversation/PM for some suggestions.

Watch papers can be interesting, but there's no certainty that they all actually belong with that particular watch.

Regards,

Graham
 

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