Ansonia pendulum clock year of manufacture ??

[sarvesh]

I have a Ansonia Pendulum Clock. It shows "Ansonia Clock Co., New York, U.S.A. A 24. At another place 9 1/4 is inscribed on it". However, there is no info. as to date or year of manufacture of the clock. the body of the clock is not original. Can anybody by looking at the machine (attachment) please let me know the year this particular model was manufactured.

 

[jacks61fd]

That movement with the New York designation is after 1882 when Ansonia moved from Ansonia Conn. to Brooklyn N.Y. The A 24 probably refers to January 1924, the 9-1/4 is the pendulum length either from the top of the suspension spring or from the hand shaft.

 

[stewey]

Jack61fd, could that movement be prior to 1882? The reason I ask is that in 1882, Ansonia patented a "wish-bone" style lifting mechanism which was fixed to the back plate. I don't see that mechanism in the photo, and also the patent date of June 13, 1882 is not stamped onto the front plate.

 

[stewey]

Obviously, I meant to say prior to 1924.

 

[bangster]

I'm moving this to the Clocks General forum.

 

[jacks61fd]

Stewey
I don't know that you would be able to see the lifting mechanism in the picture shown, and the A-24 designation as Jan 1924 is strickly speculation on my part. I have not seen similar dating on other Ansonia mvts.

 

[sarvesh]

i have another Ansonia machine of similar type (see pic.). The only difference is that the "Patented June 18, 1882" is inscribed on it.

 

[sarvesh]

Could you please post any pic of "wish-bone" style lifting mechanism" from any ansonia clock., if you have it.

 

[stewey]

Sarvesh, here is a photo of what I called the "wishbone" lifting mechanism. It is on an Ansonia "Alaska" mantle/table clock. The mechanism was patented on J une 13th, 1882, and the US patent number is 259,505.

 

[stewey]

I used the following site to look up what might have be granted a patent on the date on your clock, and I came up with nothing: http://www.nawcc-info.org/PatentDB/PatentData.htm

 

[Steven Thornberry]

I used the following site to look up what might have be granted a patent on the date on your clock, and I came up with nothing: http://www.nawcc-info.org/PatentDB/PatentData.htm

Were you looking for this?

 

[stewey]

Hi, Steven. No, that is the lifting mechanism that is patented on my clock (June 13th, 1882). I was looking for the patent date marked on Sarvesh's movement. Actually, I think it was you who introduced me to that site...Thanks.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Hi, Steven. No, that is the lifting mechanism that is patented on my clock (June 13th, 1882). I was looking for the patent date marked on Sarvesh's movement. Actually, I think it was you who introduced me to that site...Thanks.

Were you looking for June 18, 1882? You won't find it. That is a mistake for June 13, 1882. After all, June 18, 1882 wasn't a Tuesday (it was a Sunday) and American patents are, for the most part, granted on Tuesdays. Note the Patent Database Load Status field here, and the statement on this page. June 18, 1882 is not a Tuesday and is a mis-marking for June 13, 1882.

 

[stewey]

Yes, I did look at a perpetual calendar and found that that date was not a Tuesday. It sort of proves that all systems are not infallible, and that perhaps the chaos theory is correct. Who'd have thunk in 1882 that people in 2015 would be attempting to decipher what they were chronicling...Great stuff.

 

[sarvesh]

I have a Ansonia Pendulum Clock. It shows "Ansonia Clock Co., New York, U.S.A. A 24. At another place 9 1/4 is inscribed on it". However, there is no info. as to date or year of manufacture of the clock. the body of the clock is not original. Can anybody by looking at the machine (attachment) please let me know the year this particular model was manufactured.

Still no idea about the likely date of this movement, whether before 1882 or after 1882.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Can you show us what case the movement came in, or do you have only the movement? I suggest that the movement was made long after 1882. For several years, Ansonia movements carried the 1882 patent date. The lack of the date on yours seems to indicate a time after which they abandoned using the date and perhaps the lifting mechanism as well.

I am not sure when exactly this style of movement with the arch top was first introduced. Perhaps it is relevant that the drawing on the 1882 patent document shows a rectangular movement, used by Ansonia prior to adopting the arch top movement.

 

[sarvesh]

Use of Almond oil as a clock oil in place of Mobeius
I would be greteful. if you can kindly guide me on the kind of oil you are using in clocks. Can almond oil be used in place of mobeius. I have heard old clockmakers saying that it is next best to mobeius.