Ansonia Iron Case Refinish

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  1. Savageblunder

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    Hello,

    Ansonia iron case clock. Was repainted poorly at some point. Looking for best way to refinish at home. Current plan is paint stripper, sand & 0000 steel wool, prime, 3 coats of satin black spray paint for case. Possible fine sand & polish after paint cures. Has anyone refinished one at home? Case currently disassembled & sitting in stripper. Thanks.

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  2. Dave T

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    If you take a look here, you can probably find someone who has dealt with this.
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    But, based on your picture, you might want to sand it lightly and repaint, and buff.
     
  3. Bruce Alexander

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    If the original finish is destroyed and the Iron is starting to corrode, by all means remove the rust and protect it with a new finish, otherwise clean the original finish, polish and wax it. It's a very hard enamel paint. Much tougher than anything you'll likely apply at home. Treat it like an old car finish.

    Look in the Forum that Dave suggested. There are a lot of good threads in the Archives which you'll find to be very informative.
     
  4. JTD

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    The OP says it is already sitting in the stripper, so I think your suggestions are too late.

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  5. Savageblunder

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    The original finish was painted over (poorly) by someone who had the clock before I did. I considered trying to remove just the “new” finish to try to keep the original; but figured since it was painted the same exact color - the original finish likely wasn’t great. I couldn’t see someone painting something black that is already black with a decent finish.

    Anyway, it’s stripped down to bare metal. No rust or damage. I’m going to prime & paint it with satin black; then maybe wet sand & polish.

    the case on this thing likely could withstand a bomb hit.
     
  6. JTD

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    Bruce is right when he says the original finish was extremely hard - it's almost like stove enamel. You won't get that original finish with just a couple of coats of satin black, and the original finish was more 'gloss' than 'satin'.

    You may have to experiment a little to get the finish you want but it should look good when you're finished.

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  7. Bruce Alexander

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    The metal ornamentation looked as though it had been refinished so I'm not surprised that the black finish had been touched up as well.
    I've seen these cases refinished with a glossy black powder coating. I think that resembles the original finish (which I believe was baked enamel) fairly well if it isn't too thick. These clock cases will often have "incised" scrolling which is filled with gold paint for nice accents. If the black paint fills the grooves (when present), you'll have a lot of trouble getting the gold accents properly placed and sharply defined. One might decide to strip and start over or just forego the gold accents.

    Here's an example, the Ansonia Rosalind which appears elsewhere on the Message Board:

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    This is just FYI. Judging from the Catalog illustration you've provided it doesn't look like your Ansonia "Bangor" had any of the incising.

    Good luck with your restoration project.

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    No incising on this one. Stripped the case down to bare metal, which was no easy feat. 1 coat of primer & 2 of satin black. I've used powder coating services before, mainly for aluminum car wheels. I prefer to not do that on projects like this, because I feel like you increase your skills more if you do the whole project yourself start to finish. Powder coating is very durable, but doesnt necessarily provide a low texture finish and is not as easy to correct as paint IME with automotive applications
     
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    Case is ready. New dial. New glass. Polished brass. Left case figurines as I found them & antiqued them a bit with black chalk paint. Very happy how it came out.

    Ended up using 1 coat of Rustoleum primer & 2 coats of their satin black. Finish was texturally flat - so didn’t sand paint. Worse part was removing all of original finish. Used a variety of methods.
     
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    Case & clock are done

     
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    Good job!

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  12. Savageblunder

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    Thank you. There is a lot of brass on these old clocks. I’m new to clocks. My preference when working on antiques is to mirror polish pieces that are visible & solid brass or copper (usually).

    I guess to some this “ruins” the patina. I’m wondering if this is generally considered passé or a bad move in the clock world; or just preference? I picked up a wood mantle clock & was considering leaving the bezel unpolished.
     
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    Do what you like on your own clocks. Some collectors are very fussy about originality, so always ask before doing much on customer's cases.
    Your clock looks great. You should be proud of what you accomplished!
     
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    Great work!

    My go to answer is whether it complements the whole clock, and how it will look when finished. I refinished the Bailey & Company Black Marble case and decided I had to do the bezel. It just didn't look right with the case shiny and the dull bezel. I wish I took an in-between photo - Where is Photoshop Bruce when you need him? I have another clock where I left the bezel alone because it had some discoloration. I figured polishing it would only accentuate the problem.

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    Never heard of black chalk paint before. I agree that your case ornamentation looks much better than you found them.
    Nice job and thanks for the tip. I'll have to check out the chalk paints.
     
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    They have black chalk paint. I cleaned the gold stuff up on the ornaments and left the gold how I got it (repainted). It was way too bright.

    Something I commonly do with stuff like this I want to look a bit aged is get black or brown chalk paint & mix it 50/50 with water. Paint it, then wipe it down. It settles in the details and less on flat surfaces giving an aged look.
     
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    I'm familiar with the technique. You can use it with a variety of paints and waxes. I just hadn't heard of chalk paint before.
    Some folks like bright metallic colors on their ornaments, using gold, or imitation gold leaf finishes. Depends on the model and one's preferences.
    Again, nice job.
     

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