...and while I'm asking about mainsprings...

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How would YOU get the spring out of the barrel, when the winding arbor is on the GEAR side, and the end of the arbor poking out of the open side is round and only about 1/8 inch beyond the edge of the spring?

I await wisdom on getting that sucker into a capture sleeve. And back out into the barrel.

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How would YOU get the spring out of the barrel, when the winding arbor is on the GEAR side, and the end of the arbor poking out of the open side is round and only about 1/8 inch beyond the edge of the spring?

I await wisdom on getting that sucker into a capture sleeve. And back out into the barrel.

bangster
 

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Are you using an Ollie Baker winder? If yes, what I do is loosen the allen screw on the adjustable pivot rest on sliding bar so that a sleeve will rest on it. You can then wind it up and slip on the sleeve as any other.
 

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Give that arbor a tug and see if it comes apart. Some of them will.
 

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No Ollie Baker; Joe Collins winder. In order to wind it up, the chuck on the winder gotta be able to grab the arbor. Not enough sticking out the open side to grab.

Could pull the arbor out and turn it end-for-end. But then the hook wouldn't grab the hole in the spring.

(sigh)

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Bangster,

I have an Ollie Baker but this will work on most winders. I have a selection of mainspring arbors that I have accumulated with varying diameters and hooks going in both directions. I keep them with the winder sleeves. When I run into one of these “problem” barrels I just pick one that fits and problem solved.

Most recently was one of those nasty round New Haven movements where the barrels are screwed to the plate and the open end is next to the main wheel. Absolutely no way to use a winder with that arbor. So I just pop it out and use one of mine.

Ken
 

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Why not remove the arbor, and replace with one from probably a chime barrel, where the hook faces the other direction, and the squared end, is on the open side of the barrel. When replacing, use this 'reverse arbor' to wind, and insert in the barrel, then replace with the correct arbor
 

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Originally posted by Scottie-TX:
BONG; Mebbe ya oughta stick to only working on CLEPSYDRAS.
Hey, I ain't no veterinarian.

Ken &SSW...GOOD suggestions. Now I just gotta find me a place to cannibalize the right kind of arbor.

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Bang,
If I understand the question.... above answers are good of you have extra arbors. BUT if your like me and did not have one handy the other day.
I used my Webster winder and chucked up the arbor. Grabbed the outside of the barrel by hand (in glove), then captured it in a sleeve. I then had to unchuck the arbor, slide the barrel off, rechuch the arbor and release it from the sleeve.
To Reinstall I had to recapture it in the sleeve, unchuck the arbor, slide barrell over and seat the hole, rechuck and hold barrell while I woundup and removed sleeve.
A bit tricky but do-able.

Hope this is an answer to your question and not off base.
 

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Hey Don...
I like that, too. Hold barrel in gloved hand instead in the winder thing, leaving open side exposed. Wind up, brake crank, stick sleeve into barrel over spring. Right? Helps to have three hands.

That's why I love this mb. Unsuspected info from folks what know.

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Dats right Bang.
You got it. Good thing about my Webster winder it has a click feature to automatically hold the winder handle while you reach over with winder hand and insert sleeve.

I agree This MB is GREAT.

Good luck!
 

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