Anchor (or recoil or deadbeat?) escapement identification and adjustment

HotCzech46

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I have read numerous posts here about anchor adjustments, but nothing helped. I am still a Newbie but have repaired many American recoil escapements and feel comfortable working on them. This is my first Anchor escapement (I think) on a Perivale movement out of a Bentima clock made in Great Britain. This clock is a challenge. The pendulum and crutch were missing, so I have fabricated a crutch from brass plate (following an excellent thread here about doing this) and purchased a replacement pendulum. I am still working through the math on proper pendulum length but I have similar clock movements so I am not starting off blind. However, after cleaning and inspecting everything, I just can't seem to get the escapement into adjustment. I have moved the anchor up, and down, and rotated the pendulum shaft using the two screws, and moved the crutch to adjust the beat, all to no avail.
It is difficult on these clocks because the escape wheel is between the plates and almost impossible to see or to video. I purchased some small mirrors from the local hobby shop and by placing them inside, was able to get a little clearer picture. Pictures of the mirrors are at the end of this post. Videos of the movement are attached in the links below. Should not make any difference since entry and exit pallets are the same, just determined by direction of rotation of the escape wheel, but just keep in mind that videos are reversed since taken through a mirror.


My first question is just what kind of escapement do I have? I have attached a closeup picture below. I thought it was an Anchor since out of an English clock. Conover's book shows the Anchor escapement, and then goes directly into the Deadbeat escapement, but the impulse faces are different on the two movements. He also shows a Vulliamy adjustment for the pallets on a deadbeat movement. Mine has the Vulliamy adjustment screws, but the ends of the Anchor are pointed, and not flat (which would be required for impulse on a deadbeat) so I was sure it was an Anchor movement and not a deadbeat. It is an English clock, so Anchor makes sense. Then, to complicate this even further, I saw pictures of the French recoil movement, and the Pallet body in this clock looks more like a French recoil than either the English Anchor or the Deadbeat pallets. Tips are pointed, not flat and horizontal as on an English Anchor or flat and angled as on a deadbeat. Also, the escape wheel turns with the tips pointing away from the entry pallet, as it does in a recoil movement.
Bottom line, I need help.
Second question is what procedure one should follow to adjust an Anchor escapement (assuming this is an Anchor escapement). Is it similar to a recoil, where you put it at maximum depth and then back it off until it works, or is there another technique? Should drop on entry and exit be the same, as in a recoil? Since the impulse to the pendulum comes from the edges of the anchor, and not from the flat surface of the verge, as in a recoil, it would seem that having minimal depth of the anchor into the escape wheel would be desired, just being sure the tip of the teeth on the wheel makes full contact with the full length of the edge of the anchor. I don't know and although I have many books on clock repair, none of them give a good procedure for anchor adjustment.
The video was taken by me moving the crutch and pendulum by hand, not free swinging. Although it appears to be properly setup (in my opinion), the clock will not run at all.
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Willie X

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Recoil ... The whole assembly would be called an 'anchor' by many and 'pallet/s' by many.

If you are serious about this subject, buy THE book: 'Practical Clock Escapements' by Laurie Penman.

Merry Christmas, Willie X
 

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A comprehensive and clear explanation of escapement types, locks, drops and center distance can be found in This Old Clock by David S. Goodman. That is available on Amazon, eBay and probably your local library. The publication is not expensive.
Another source for understanding would be to view a video of a dead-beat escapement working, a recoil, etc.
You mentioned clean oil and adjust.
To me, that is a danger sign. There is more to clock repair than those. In order for any and all escapements to work properly, there must be sufficient power to the escapement. It is easy and common to tag the verge, escape wheel, etc. as the culprit when most times it is lack of power in the wheel train. Hundred-year-old clock movements will be worn and wear should be addressed. This is a truism rather than an occasional happening. Main springs are often blamed for situations with low power. You may have already done damage to the escapement with your experimentation. Bet on it at least being out of whack.
You would do well to have a mentor as well as study clock repair. Even a bad mentor can teach good lessons.
Best of luck with your clock.
Dick
 

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Hi HotCzech46-

As Willie X says, it is a recoil escapement with a solid anchor (pallets). Your video shows good entrance drop but excessive exit drop. Exit drop is adjusted by moving the anchor closer to or farther away from the escape wheel. In this instance, you would need to move the anchor closer to the EW. And yes, both the entrance and exit drops should be equal.

Good luck with it!

D.
 

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Willie X - Thanks. I don't have that book, but I do have Laurie Penman's "The Clock Repairer's Handbook". It is 176 pages with about 30 pages devoted to escapements. Huge amount of detail and history.
LaBounty - You and Willie X are spot on. I'll keep adjusting it. I get frustrated on these Perivale movements because they are so temperamental.
Dick - I have Goodman's "This Old Clock". Not much in it on this issue.
Bottom Line - I read through Penman's chapters again on escapements and realized what I was missing. I was thrown off by the pictures in Conover's book showing the Anchor with flat, horizontal surfaces when in actuality the pallet has the same shape as the American strip recoil but is solid instead of essentially a bent wire. I got it. After about 20 more adjustments, the clock is running.
Just a point. Conover shows a French recoil pallet (page 39) which looks almost identical to what I have. Conover then shows a picture of an English recoil (Anchor) pallet (page 40), which is what I thought I should have but the pallet I have looks nothing like it. I have attached pictures of the two Figures from Conover's book.
David
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If it's finicky, you probably have a power problem. Yeah, I know I say this all the time ... Merry Christmas, Willie X
 

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Thanks, Willie. Merry Christmas to you as well.
This is off topic, but I thought I would take a minute to answer some of Dick's concerns. I am relatively new to all this, but I spent my time reading and learning and looking for advice wherever I could find it.
I have several of Conover's books, as mentioned in my post. I also have a lot of other books, including the Penman book I mentioned to Willie. I belong to the National NAWCC as well as to a local chapter. Unfortunately, this local does not do a lot of educational courses so I have not had much luck with mentoring. I get better advice here on this forum.
I also bought John Tope's entire set of courses on clock repair. Finished all of those related to mechanisms but still going through the case repair series and a couple of others. I live in Texas so going to the NAWCC's course is not practical. I go through youtube videos religiously, although 90% are worthless and it is seldom that a really good one comes along. One that really helped me is a series made by Scottie's Clock World on Vintage English Enfield Mantle Clocks. My first English movement I worked on was a Smiths-Enfield clock and almost identical to the one in his video series. The current one is similar, with a Perivale movement, but the Enfield clock had an American style recoil movement in it, and although it was also located between the plates, internal to the clock. I got through that one just fine.
As regards cleaning and oiling, I take the clock apart, clean it using DEOX-007 in my Ultrasonic cleaner, then turn every wheel in my lathe to make sure the arbors are not bent and all teeth are there and are not bent, and that all teeth have the same amplitude on the circumference. Then I polish, and sand, if necessary, every pivot so it is in perfect shape with no ridges or grooves or other defects. Then I inspect every pivot hole on the clock and bush as necessary. I have both KWM and Bergeon bushing machines, although I almost exclusively use KWM because of their smaller size. Then I reassemble and oil the clock, following dozens of articles, videos, and other advice about what oil to use and how much to exactly use. Before reassembling, I also remove the mainsprings, clean with kerosene, and reoil with motor oil. I have an Ollie Baker style winder for this purpose.
As noted in one of my other posts on the forum, I have experienced first-hand how a slight imperfection in placement of a bushing completely prevented a clock from running. I also found one clock where the prior repair person replaced a click spring with one that was a fraction of a mm too wide, but enough so that it touched the second wheel and added friction that caused the clock to stop. I know that precision and attention to detail is required.
I have enough experience now to fairly judge if there is sufficient power to the escape wheel to make the clock function. This one is fine. Before installing the mainsprings, I installed only the time wheels, and then only the strike wheels, checking each subassembly for endplay and making sure all wheels spun freely with just a slight touch of the finger to the first wheel in each train.
This clock should run. I am convinced that there is a proper way to adjust the pallets but was unsure just what I had. If someone had just shown me the pallet body, I would have said it was a French recoil. However, this is in a Perivale movement made in Great Britain and as far as I know, those clocks don't have French recoil escapements in them. Maybe they do. I know the Anchor pallet is a recoil escapement as well and since I have not worked on one before, and this is probably what I have, I just wanted to make sure adjustments for drop and lock were the same. I have seen enough on this forum to appreciate that one small piece of advice from someone that has been there before is worth a fortune.
I'm just looking for information and advice.
 

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A common problem with these solid pallets is that they wear, then someone grinds off the surfaces to remove the ruts, then you have an anchor that's to wide and very difficult to get back to the necessary geometry. Willie X
 

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For those who are curious, the easiest way to determine a basic escapement type is to look at the direction of the teeth as the escape wheel turns. If the teeth point toward the rotation, it's a dead beat escapement (they come in many forms though). If the teeth point away from rotation it's a recoil escapement.
 
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