American American Waltham Watch Co. 1890, 0s, 15j, seaside?

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I recently came across a Waltham pocket watch and have been researching it for the last three days,(absolutely fascinated, I've learned so much already) I'm still not 100% sure what grade mine is. I keep coming up with seaside for grade. I was wondering if you had any tips on how to find out? 1891,0s,15j,keystone case 14k, serial# 10342878 also any information on this watch will help and be greatly appreciated thank you. (Thank you Rob for letting me know to start my own thread. I'm totally new to all this.)
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Hi and welcome to the NAWCC Forum!!

are you familiar with the pocket watch database
Waltham Pocket Watch: Serial Number 10342878 (Grade Seaside) (pocketwatchdatabase.com)

I am sure some members will give you some info


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Yes absolutely I have seen that exact page before wasn't sure on the accuracy since mine doesn't look like the image they're showing and the face on mine is Arabic the ones that I've been able to find to compare against are all Roman numerals and without any of the fancy designs. I still have yet to open her fully up I just learned today how to get the movement out of the casing so at some point today I'm going to start dismantling. (Maybe.... I really don't want to break it, especially if it might be worth something. Definitely teetering on the edge of just keeping it for myself because I'm really getting into this.)
 

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Don't tinker with it yet if you do not have any experience. :)



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True.



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I recently came across a Waltham pocket watch and have been researching it for the last three days,(absolutely fascinated, I've learned so much already) I'm still not 100% sure what grade mine is. I keep coming up with seaside for grade. I was wondering if you had any tips on how to find out? 1891,0s,15j,keystone case 14k, serial# 10342878 also any information on this watch will help and be greatly appreciated thank you. (Thank you Rob for letting me know to start my own thread. I'm totally new to all this.)
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The 14K/25YR J.Boss case was one of the most popular cases on the market at the time. You might find the case reference page beneficial as well. There are a lot of images available for comparison.

The case number is consistent with serial blocks used by the Keystone Watch Case Company c.1901-1903, aligning with the estimated production year for the movement.

 

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Yes absolutely I have seen that exact page before wasn't sure on the accuracy since mine doesn't look like the image they're showing and the face on mine is Arabic the ones that I've been able to find to compare against are all Roman numerals and without any of the fancy designs...
I believe the database is correct, the movement is a model 1891. The dial, hands, case, chain etc are all independent of that. Back in the day, watches were not shipped & sold as a single complete unit like they are now.

As you can see from the database, this is a common watch.
If it has been recently serviced by someone who knows what he's doing then it should keep very good time, more than adequate for most everyday purposes. If you are planning to run it much, then a service is recommended.

For more info about the 1891 model and its variations, you could start here -
 

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As we have come to recognize that the "grade" assignments in the Waltham records for this time period often tend to be lumped together for economy of space when several grades may all use the same replacement parts. I believe Waltham used the "Seaside" name in the records for a number of similar unadjusted grade movements. Your movement appears to match their grade No.65 which was a 15-jewel model.
 

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