Ambrose Kent and Sons (Toronto) movement identification

[Deafboy]

Hi,
I’m servicing a pocket watch for a Canadian friend that has a private label movement. Can someone help me identify the manufacturer of the movement?
Michel

 

[Jerry Treiman]

This movement was made by the Illinois Watch Company. It is 16-size and is their Model 4 movement for a hunting case.

 

[Deafboy]

Thank you so much! Using your information to get me going, I was able to get more details from the Pocket Watch Database. I learned that the movement dates from around 1902. It’s housed in nice A.W.C. Co. 14k hunter case.

 

[Deafboy]

Hello Again,
I'm servicing this watch and noticed two problems:
1) the mainspring is "set" so I'm looking for a replacement. Curiously, the height of the spring is 2.80 mm instead of the usual 2.7 mm (thickness is 0.186mm and length is 20.5"). I'm tempted to get the #47315 (JA-410) which is 2.7mm but there is also a 2.9 mm spring for "thick barrels" 47333 (JA-419). Which should I get?

2) there is one cracked jewel for the third wheel. Suggestions to where to source a replacement?
Michel

 

[Kent]

Hi Michel:

Its a very interesting watch you're working on!

You might be interested to know that Kent, Ambrose & Sons was listed amongst the Grand Trunk Railway System Watch Inspectors in 1898.

 

[rrwatch]

Here is another example of an A. Kent private label watch, this one made I believe, by Gallet, in Switzerland. it is also a 16 size and is of open face configuration.

 

[Dave Coatsworth]

You might be interested in this information from the 925-1000.com website: Kent Brothers of Toronto (Ambrose Kent & Sons Ltd.) - www.925-1000.com. It covers the preceeding Kent Brothers business and then the Ambrose Kent & Sons business that was ressurected out of it.

 

[musicguy]

Hello Again,
I'm servicing this watch and noticed two problems:
1) the mainspring is "set" so I'm looking for a replacement. Curiously, the height of the spring is 2.80 mm instead of the usual 2.7 mm (thickness is 0.186mm and length is 20.5"). I'm tempted to get the #47315 (JA-410) which is 2.7mm but there is also a 2.9 mm spring for "thick barrels" 47333 (JA-419). Which should I get?

2) there is one cracked jewel for the third wheel. Suggestions to where to source a replacement?
Michel

Repost your question in the Watch repair section.
I could move it there, but it might be confusing to split this thread.

Rob

 

[Deafboy]

Repost your question in the Watch repair section.
I could move it there, but it might be confusing to split this thread.

Rob

Thanks for the tip. I did post a similar thread on that forum as It looked it wouldn't get much traction here. I did obtain answers to my questions.