Also unknown fusee

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  1. Shipsbell

    Shipsbell Registered User
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    This is the last English wztch I wii post.
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    Name scratch in the plate "John Gilke"
    Number either 591 or 6916
    Also on the watch states Shipston"
    Hall marks on the case are not clear. I have included pictures.
    Note the face on the balance cover, any details on the face would be fun to hear.
    Thanks for any help
    Patrick

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  2. Shipsbell

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    Case pictures

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    Patrick - I like the silver cock.

    Loomes - John Gilkes Shipston-on-Stour, Oxfordshire 1740-1784
    Britten - John & Mary Gilkes, Shipston watch Jno on plate, Mary on dial

    I believe the plate signature is Jno Gilkes and the serial number 3916.

    The maker's mark enhanced

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    I believe this to be the mark of Thomas Hales, 8 Silver Street, Wood Street, London. This incuse mark was registered 16 July 1784. The mark is described as having a crescent above - you may be able to see some evidence under magnification in the hand. The watch has the characteristics consistent with the dates of Hales and Gilkes.

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    Hi Patrick,

    A silver balance cock on an English watch is unusual, and not often seen this late in the 18th century. The grotesque mask on the balance cock was a common motif from very early days, and seems to have been a way for the engravers to exercise some creativity; some are quite outlandishly ugly.

    The repoussé outer case has considerable wear and some repairs by the look of it, which isn't surprising with such a soft metal.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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  5. JTD

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    I agree - that's what I see also.

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    Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions. Patrick
     

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