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Alpina pocket watch, date or movement details etc anyone?

Karl Schluter

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Hello, Here's a relatively new purchase of mine, an Alpina with an Acier (steel) case. I have looked online for info on this watch but to be honest I didn't get very far, apart from the following excellent source of information: bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Alpina 1109 Can anyone tell me if this case would be the original for this watch movement? Or would a more upmarket case have been originally fitted? The numbers on the case itself are 1297 with a 12 below, and stamped inside the dust cover again is a matching 1297 with a lighter stamp of 5180 (possibly). I would like to know some details on the movement if possible ( which has 1623 stamped on it), I can't seem to find out when the UH in a rectangle stamp was used by Union Horlgére to help date it either. I know its probably quite a basic watch but I'd be very interested in anything members can tell me about it? Take care, Karl.

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svenedin

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I’ve no reason to doubt that isn’t the original case. Steel cases and nickel-silver cases are common for the era of this watch. It’s a good honest watch. Nothing remarkable but ideal for everyday use.
 

Karl Schluter

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Going off the link the Karl provided from Ranfft, on that page;
Example, year: signature; shock device
ca. 1925: 602256, Alpina, 1109 - Alliance

The big number is the serial or production number.
I'm not convinced yours is the same movement.
Yes you're more than likely correct there, sorry I should have stated the link I pasted from the Ranfft website was to show its the best collection of information on Alpina movements I have found to date, not that I thought the Alpina 1109 calibre was the same as mine one. In saying that if anyone could tell me what calibre mine is I would be most grateful! The Ranfft site also has a good collection of Alpina trade marks: (although I couldn't find one exactly the same as pictured in my first post, I thought this may help date it to a certain degree): bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Alpina, Union Horlogère SA, Bienne, Genève, Besancon, Berlin
Take care, Karl.
 
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The winding bridge set-up reminds me of the Alpina Calibre 161, the train wheels were in a bridge set-up from memory but not the same shape as yours, some of these Swiss Company's did some weird & wonderful things. Such as the same Calibre with slightly different bridge designs or a combination of the two types in a transitional change, whether this is the case with yours I have not a clue.
 

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The winding bridge set-up reminds me of the Alpina Calibre 161, the train wheels were in a bridge set-up from memory but not the same shape as yours, some of these Swiss Company's did some weird & wonderful things. Such as the same Calibre with slightly different bridge designs or a combination of the two types in a transitional change, whether this is the case with yours I have not a clue.
Alpina 161 is a Venus 70a. A cylinder escapement.
Remember that Alpina used other Swiss ebauche, even Junghans.

One thing you may note if you compare the image in this post with all of the Alpina models mentioned on Ranfft, you'll note that the above is reverse.
ie: the winding and train, balance, all around the other way.
 

Karl Schluter

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Thank you guys for all of your posted comments, they are all giving me a bit more of an idea of what I have here. Thank you too for the link to the Trademark site Roughbarked , I hadn't seen that site before. Take care, Karl
 

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Very nice P/L, and quite a bit more upmarket than the one in my post above!
 

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