Advice for dating this clock

[Bernhard J.]

I find this clock interesting, but I am quite unsure about dating it. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Bernhard

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[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

I find this clock interesting, but I am quite unsure about dating it. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Bernhard

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Start with the maker?

RM

 

[Ralph]

Tony Mercer's book on Chronometer Maker's of the World, shows an Edward Massey & Family at many addresses, including the 89 Strand, right down the street from the more familiar 84 Strand. Alan Treherne published an article in the AHS on the Massey family.

AH_vol.39 No.03 - Sep 2018 (Page 120) (21.5 MB)

…ed. An apprenticeship indenture for John Hulme to John Massey, Edward's eldest son, was shown. Hulme eventually…

Based on what I read, ,the clock is very late 1800's probably.1890ish or later. He was the eldest son of Edward.

Ralph

 

[Bernhard J.]

I was not sure whether the signature is not just a retailer.

Because the movement itself looks to me earlier than late 1800s, looking at the form of the plates, of the pillars and various other details.

Cheers, Bernhard

 

[jmclaugh]

An interesting and unusual four glass clock. Britten has him at 89 The Strand and 40 Bridge St. Lambeth 1810-35.

 

[JTD]

I am wondering about the writing on the dial. It just doesn't look 'right' to my eye, but perhaps I am wrong.

JTD

 

[zedric]

It is an unusual clock - the A frame style of the movement reminds me of that used in dial clocks, and as JTD says, there is something about the dial that doesn't look quite "right", but I can't think what it is. And the single finial on the top centre doesn't look usual either.

 

[novicetimekeeper]

It is an unusual clock - the A frame style of the movement reminds me of that used in dial clocks, and as JTD says, there is something about the dial that doesn't look quite "right", but I can't think what it is. And the single finial on the top centre doesn't look usual either.

I think too unusual.

I can't see any other evidence as the pendulum is in the way but there is a threaded hole that I think was a hold fast for a verge movement.

I think the case is far more recent than the movement, and I just don't think the dial is right.

 

[Bernhard J.]

I think the case is far more recent than the movement, and I just don't think the dial is right.

Exactly this was my first thought also.