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A fascinating new book Disrupting Time: Industrial combat, espionage, and the downfall of a great American company: Stark, Aaron

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Last week, author Aaron Stark sent me an autographed complimentary copy of his new, self-published book:

Disrupting Time: Industrial combat, espionage, and the downfall of a great American company: Stark, Aaron: 9798367320862: Amazon.com: Books

It was a fascinating read. Aaron has an intriguing take on the trajectory of American watchmaking and the Swiss response to the American challenge that is distinctly different from earlier writers like Moore, Landes, and Watkins. Aaron's unique perspective is not surprising, since he is neither a horologist nor a Waltham watch product afficionado per se. Rather, he is a West Point graduate, which comes through in his frequent "battle" and "combat" metaphors, and more importantly, a Harvard MBA, which comes through in his understanding of business practices and his analyses thereof. One may be skeptical or even disagree with some of his contentions, and a few of his facts probably need more context, but his book is extensively referenced and loaded with interesting facts. I consider it an insightful and provocative work as well as a very absorbing and enjoyable read, which I am still digesting.
 
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I have been a little busy and have not yet finished Aaron's book.

I am very fond of Ezra C. Fitch and will need a while to digest Aaron's analysis of his role in the ultimate decline of Waltham. I should be ready to talk about it in another week.
 

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Last week, author Aaron Stark sent me an autographed complimentary copy of his new, self-published book:

Disrupting Time: Industrial combat, espionage, and the downfall of a great American company: Stark, Aaron: 9798367320862: Amazon.com: Books

It was a fascinating read. Aaron has an intriguing take on the trajectory of American watchmaking and the Swiss response to the American challenge that is distinctly different from earlier writers like Moore, Landes, and Watkins. Aaron's unique perspective is not surprising, since he is neither a horologist nor a Waltham watch product afficionado per se. Rather, he is a West Point graduate, which comes through in his frequent "battle" and "combat" metaphors, and more importantly, a Harvard MBA, which comes through in his understanding of business practices and his analyses thereof. One may be skeptical or even disagree with some of his contentions, and a few of his facts probably need more context, but his book is extensively referenced and loaded with interesting facts. I consider it an insightful and provocative work as well as a very absorbing and enjoyable read, which I am still digesting.
Clint,

I bought the book, but I was put off by the first sentence in the description. The David report was transalted by Richard Watckins some time ago and be found here:


Schaublin and Dixie machine tools were directly derived from American patterns.

Also, there is a book by Donze that describes the overt collaboration (policy) among the Swiss Govt, financial institutions and watch industry from the first 1/2 of the 20th Cent. up to Swatch. (I have to find it on my shelf). Review article here:

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1087&context=sahs_review

This collaboration created the Swiss Cartel. Manufacturers were encouraged to collaborate rather than compete. For example, they setteled on something like 22 lever watch escapement designs and established a company to make those escapements which were ordered by design number. This info used to be included in the old tech bulletin sheets (Dushan ferreted this out). The cross industry use of the 7750 is nothing new.

Without doubt, Swiss watchmaking did not develop organically. It was strategically managed.

What gets really annoying is that the Swiss Federation of Watchmakers took out ads in the trade journals after WWII offering SYMPATHY to Waltham after the Swiss flooded the US market with jeweled wws during WWII while REFUSING to supply LeCoultre A/C clocks and Nardin chronometers.
 
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Pages 214 to 247 of the book contain 615 end notes including references to the work of Richard Watkins and many, many others who have contributed insights into the history of the fall of American watchmaking.

I think Aaron's most important contribution to this history is the role of Ambrose Webster both as the real original architect of the American System and his defection to the Swiss with the encouragement of David. The exhibit of the gauge system and the three level standards used at Waltham was presented at our National Symposium in Boxboro and several more times by George Collard but never with the implications surrounding the American Watch Tool Company rise to prominence following 1876 when Stark were clearly the superior machine makers at the time.

This book is the first time I have seen the Webster part of the whole process clearly told. I have had most of this information before me for about 30 years and have never made the connection nor the industrial espionage inference.
 

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Clint,

I bought the book, but I was put off by the first sentence in the description. The David report was transalted by Richard Watckins some time ago and be found here:


Schaublin and Dixie machine tools were directly derived from American patterns.

Also, there is a book by Donze that describes the overt collaboration (policy) among the Swiss Govt, financial institutions and watch industry from the first 1/2 of the 20th Cent. up to Swatch. (I have to find it on my shelf). Review article here:

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1087&context=sahs_review

This collaboration created the Swiss Cartel. Manufacturers were encouraged to collaborate rather than compete. For example, they setteled on something like 22 lever watch escapement designs and established a company to make those escapements which were ordered by design number. This info used to be included in the old tech bulletin sheets (Dushan ferreted this out). The cross industry use of the 7750 is nothing new.

Without doubt, Swiss watchmaking did not develop organically. It was strategically managed.

What gets really annoying is that the Swiss Federation of Watchmakers took out ads in the trade journals after WWII offering SYMPATHY to Waltham after the Swiss flooded the US market with jeweled wws during WWII while REFUSING to supply LeCoultre A/C clocks and Nardin chronometers.
Dewey, as Tom said, Aaron Stark's book cites both Watkins's translation of Jacques David, as well as Donze's book. He is fully conversant with the literature and he managed to offer new insights.
 

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Dewey, as Tom said, Aaron Stark's book cites both Watkins's translation of Jacques David, as well as Donze's book. He is fully conversant with the literature and he managed to offer new insights.
Clint,

You may notice I gave Tom's clarification of the contents a like.

As I made clear, I am put off by the sensationalism of the cover and the Amazon description. From the little I know of the book (arriving Monday) that section would be at best a "review of the literature". The strategic mgt of the Swiss industry is not a newly uncovered secret; it has been well documented as Tom alludes in Stark's bibliography. I do not recall saying he was doing anything untoward, simply that IMO whoever made up the cover and the Amazon description did the book a disservice.

It WOULD be helpful if a review of the literature summarized those sources into one cohesive story. That may be what he did, and if so, that is a service to the community. I think if the book is good, it should be able to stand on its own as a summary of and analysis of information sources, many of which are not accessible by the casual reader.

But it is incorrect to describe a literature review as uncovering a secret that has not been revealed for 146 years. That dismisses the very sources he relied on (ie Watkins, Donze, etc) who have written on this subject for years.

I do look forward to the new information you and Tom say is included.
 
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Clint,

You may notice I gave Tom's clarification of the contents a like.

As I made clear, I am put off by the sensationalism of the cover and the Amazon description. From the little I know of the book (arriving Monday) that section would be at best a "review of the literature". The strategic mgt of the Swiss industry is not a newly uncovered secret; it has been well documented as Tom alludes in Stark's bibliography. I do not recall saying he was doing anything untoward, simply that IMO whoever made up the cover and the Amazon description did the book a disservice.

It WOULD be helpful if a review of the literature summarized those sources into one cohesive story. That may be what he did, and if so, that is a service to the community. I think if the book is good, it should be able to stand on its own as a summary of and analysis of information sources, many of which are not accessible by the casual reader.

But it is incorrect to describe a literature review as uncovering a secret that has not been revealed for 146 years. That dismisses the very sources he relied on (ie Watkins, Donze, etc) who have written on this subject for years.

I do look forward to the new information you and Tom say is included.
Fine, Dewey. I hope you enjoy the book as much as I did.
 

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Dewey, the 146 years is Aaron's reference to Watkins translation of the Jura report. I am pretty sure you will enjoy the read. As I said, I sort of consider myself an expert on this story and I got some insights from Aaron's treatment.

The tracing of Ambrose Webster's visit to the Centennial and his relationship with David and Gribi are insights I have not seen published before.

It is not part of the main theme but the efforts of Webster to establish the tooling standards approach and later the efforts by Gribi to teach the professional standards approach are also important in understanding what we had in American watchmaking.

I have been interested in seeing how this evolutionary pattern seems to recur as technology frontiers are breached. I see a lot of similarities in the development of computer and software technology where I have spent the bulk of my own life.
 
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Dewey, the 146 years is Aaron's reference to Watkins translation of the Jura report. I am pretty sure you will enjoy the read. As I said, I sort of consider myself an expert on this story and I got some insights from Aaron's treatment.

The tracing of Ambrose Webster's visit to the Centennial and his relationship with David and Gribi are insights I have not seen published before.

It is not part of the main theme but the efforts of Webster to establish the tooling standards approach and later the efforts by Gribi to teach the professional standards approach are also important in understanding what we had in American watchmaking.

I have been interested in seeing how this evolutionary pattern seems to recur as technology frontiers are breached. I see a lot of similarities in the development of computer and software technology where I have spent the bulk of my own life.
Tom,

That is my point. The translation of the David report has been available for almost 20 years. It was created around 1878. Further, references to it can be found in many histories of Longines. And I suspect there have been original (untranslated) copies in circulation long before Richard translated it for us who only know English. I read it shortly after Richard published the translation.

I am reserving judgment of the book until I get my copy of course. I just think the hype is unfortunate and likely unnecessary.

Changing focus.

You DO have me intrigued about Webster.

BTW, since you are interested in the evolution of tech, have you read Hounshell or "The Perfectionists" by Winchester?

I think there reaches a point where we all start looking beyond watches themselves to look at the relationships between cultural and technological change.

Very generally though, there are several major differences between the US and Euopean. We have always stressed competition whereas collaboarion is not a dirty word in Europe (except in the poilitcal sense). Also we have massive resources that fueled a seeminlgly inifinte number of industries.

European countries had more limited options and pursued the industries suited to their situation (Germany, steel; Swiss, watches, England, international trade, etc) with governmaent backing and guidance.

The difference between David and the Americans who went to the UK to learn about steam, RRs, canals and woolen mills is that the former had govt (or was it just industry?) backing, while the latter acted as individauls. Both totally in character with their cultural values.

In the scheme of things, mass produced US watchmaking was destined to die. Timex and then quartz made timekeeping instruments availble to everyman. Even the Swiss still talk in hushed whispers about "The Crisis". But the cartel was able to survive whereas the US industry could not.

So, which system is better? Is this a moral question or an economics question?

Seriously Tom, I am enjoying our discussion..:)
 
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I think this is a very important topic although not really related to horology. The same rules apply to all human endeavor.

What continues to concern me is that the production capacity of earth is, in my opinion, sufficient to give every person on earth a comfortable life.

The accumulation of wealth through capitalism in the US and other countries like us with the corresponding accumulation of wealth by despots and oligarchs in countries that are less like us leads to the creation of poverty and hunger when there is more than enough for everyone.

As artificial intelligence continues to displace more and more workforce, the productivity increases and there is yet more wealth available to deal with scarcity problems.

Some believe that once artificial intelligence becomes self aware and has goals of its own it may decide to eliminate the obvious inequalities in order to reduce instability. That may in turn threaten those humans whose primary goal is to "show others" how much better they are than them.

I wonder what the rest of us will decide to do to be satisfied with our lives?
 

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I certainly agree with all of what you said. But I think blaming our generation is like blaming the last guy to "out" for losing the ball game. There was a lot of events before that last out. I think I would enjoy having a coffee or beer with you; although we may find ourselves in an echo chamber.

Back to our regularly scheduled program.
 

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I think this is a very important topic although not really related to horology. The same rules apply to all human endeavor.

What continues to concern me is that the production capacity of earth is, in my opinion, sufficient to give every person on earth a comfortable life.

The accumulation of wealth through capitalism in the US and other countries like us with the corresponding accumulation of wealth by despots and oligarchs in countries that are less like us leads to the creation of poverty and hunger when there is more than enough for everyone.

As artificial intelligence continues to displace more and more workforce, the productivity increases and there is yet more wealth available to deal with scarcity problems.

Some believe that once artificial intelligence becomes self aware and has goals of its own it may decide to eliminate the obvious inequalities in order to reduce instability. That may in turn threaten those humans whose primary goal is to "show others" how much better they are than them.

I wonder what the rest of us will decide to do to be satisfied with our lives?
Well, since we are already down this road, I'll walk it with you a little further, Tom. I see the crisis this way: I believe the existential threat of global warming has rendered the nineteenth century capitalist paradigm of unlimited growth, zero-sum international competiton, and a conception of the Earth as a free, infinitely capacious garbage dump not merely obsolete, but lethal to the human race. To paraphrase Albert Einstien at the dawn of the nuclear age, "Everything has changed, except our way of thinking." I think those same words apply now in a different context. I fear not for myself or my wife, but for our daughter and any children she may choose to have. She is getting married in April.
 
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Deep breath. And remember, this my opinion.

OK. I got my book and spent a couple of hours reading it. As a review of the literature, it works pretty well. He does a good job of describing the different markets pursued by the Swiss as an industry and Waltham. He accurately describes the Swiss reception of the David report and explains how Longines benefitted from what was learned. He also describes the importance and focus on the Swiss watchmaking schools and their focus on creating watch engineers.

But to my mind the author relied on marketing sensationalization and it seems his biases impact the writing tone.

For example, while the marketing materials imply that the Swiss killed Waltham, the author concludes precisely what Moore concluded--that Waltham died a natural death complicated by severe mismanagement. (pp. 214-216)

He then admits that the marketing claim of exposing the 146-year-old secret (David report) is a ruse by acknowledging the academic work done beginning in 1987 and Watkin's translation.

As for David as a spy: the author sez that David's first visit to Waltham (incognito) was so short and limited that it yielded little of value (p. 110) and that he probably got more detailed info on an official tour (which Waltham did on a regular basis). He then uses the modern sense of "recruiting informants" when in fact these were likely specifically developed contacts. There is nothing nefarious in this, we do it (networking) and it has always been a requirement of a Foreign Service Officer.

I believe today we call much of this open source information that can be gleaned by reading at the library.

And as we all know, it was very common for companies to hire away talent from other companies for their knowledge ala Elgin hiring the five stars.

I think the story would have been better served with more neutral language that simply described who David knew and the information he was able to develop (insider financial information in particular).

The author is focused on Waltham, but at times he seems to confuse Waltham with the entire American Watchmaking Industry (Elgin, Illinois, Hampden, Lancaster, Howard, Hamilton, Rockford, South Bend, etc). (pg 215)

Interestingly, his concluding paragraph (p. 215) states "In a historical sense, Waltham failed so miserably that most people have no idea that America ever had a watch industry, much less an innovative, dominant, and progressive company." A little over the top, like the marketing.

So, as far as what is presented, I view it as summaries of two very loosely related stories. The story of Waltham, and here he does provide material not included in Moore. The other story is of the Swiss reception of the David report. But I see no strong connection between the business decision that resulted in Waltham's demise and the David report. Indeed, this seems to be the conclusion of the author himself.

So I am somewhat confused as to the author's intent.

IF this work was intended to analyze the different outcomes of the American and Swiss watchmaking industries, I do think there is an important discussion missing.

Any discussion of the Swiss industry vs the American industry should examine what happened during WWII. While the Swiss did dump jeweled wws in the US during WWII while failing to export strategic timepieces (the UK smuggled in LeCoutre clocks and even a Wild photo interpretation machine via diplomatic pouch), it was WAR production that clapped out the American watchmaking factories. It was good condition Swiss factories against clapped out American factories.

But there is no discussion of the lack of a US govt response to help the industry recover. This highlights the difference between American business culture and European business culture.

Even had that assistance happened, the US watch industry was doomed once Timex came on the scene and then quartz. Even the Swiss thought the game was over with quartz. Then they all looked at what Rolex was doing.

In the US, the prowess of the American watchmakers was turned to the space program. Their experience with micromachining was critical. And, the space industry was more profitable, as were military contracts. So the US more or less bowed out of mass-produced mechanical watchmaking not as a result of competition, but because of better opportunities.

IMO, the book would have been helped by a deeper exploration of the way the Swiss govt, financial sector and industry coordinated their efforts to build the watch industry, and to contrast that with America's approach to business. The interested reader should get Donze's book on the Swiss Watch Industry.

Regarding references, it would have been more useful to have used standard reference format where the author relied on that information, then a bibliography. Chapter footnotes are kind of awkward and inflate the reference pages.

In summary, this book is essentially a literature review of two loosely related stories; that of Waltham as a business and the Swiss usage of the David report. But as the author concludes, Waltham was simply a poorly managed business. The David report was used to upgrade Swiss production, but this did not have a direct impact on Waltham's health. In fact, the author indicates the Swiss and Waltham competed at two different ends of the market.

However, the author does conflate the company of Waltham with the entire US watch industry. Finally, IMO, the sensationalism and tone of the overall writing interfere with this reader's ability to internalize what is written.
 

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Rob,

Despite my criticisms, I do think the book is worth owning. Especially if you do not have a good sense of the Waltham or how Longines developed from the David report. Stark has many good facts. I just think the tone and analysis is skewed and he refutes many of his own claims. Curious.

I also strongly suggest getting the Donze book. DOnze and the David report help understand how the Swiss built their industry. Stark helps understand the issues Waltham created for themselves in a context not included in Moore. I still think Moore is a seminal Waltham history however. Stark is an adjunct.
 

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The title and the cover of this book had persuaded me that it was historical fiction before I started to read it. Clearly Aaron did not take it nearly as far as most historical fiction goes. I was expecting much more flesh around the characters. What I found is a more academic orientation, with all the information one might need to write a novel.

I would have liked scenes with the various protagonists discussing how they were going to try to put their plans in place.

I hope it does well with its target audience of the curious but not so well informed historians.
 

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