21Jewel BW Raymond Grade 581 staff

Greg Crockett

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S. LaRose appears unable to provide the correct staff for my Royal Navy Elgin Deck Watch. The serial No. is 41754653 (Circa 1942). The staff LaRose sent is almost correct, but the hub is too small. Any help locating a staff or balance would be appriciated.

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Greg
 

Greg Crockett

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S. LaRose appears unable to provide the correct staff for my Royal Navy Elgin Deck Watch. The serial No. is 41754653 (Circa 1942). The staff LaRose sent is almost correct, but the hub is too small. Any help locating a staff or balance would be appriciated.

Best regards,
Greg
 

Julian Smith

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Greg,
The Elgin serial number book lists your watch as gr. 581.But,the parts section does not have 581 listed.
All 16 size staffs have a balance seat diameter of 1.10 MM,except for the alloy wheel at 1.13 MM and the timer with .75.,and the 571 series.
Maybe the hole was damaged and a custom staff was cut to fit.
Sorry I can be of no more help.
J Smith
 

Don Dahlberg

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The Elgin B W Raymond, Grade 581 took a staff with Elgin # 749-16-3-C

Dimensions in mm
Length 5.30
Harispring seat 0.80
Balance Seat 1.10
Roller Seat 0.63
Pivot 0.11

The serial number listed above might be a military number since. Checking the dimensions it seems to match an Elgin 861. Be careful, the 861 came in three styles. It is probably the 861C new style. The new style had a groove just below the rivet point in the balance seat.

Try calling Jules Borel at (800) 776-6858
or mail@julesborel.com

They actually know something about watches.

If I knew for sure which staff you wanted, I would suggest going to www.dasto.com

Perhaps this will get you closer.

Don

[This message was edited by Don Dahlberg on December 10, 2003 at 1:39.]
 

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