18s Two-Tone Hamiltons not 940/941 (W.F. Laraway)

Greg Frauenhoff

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Young Fred, our fearless moderator, started a thread on Two-tone 940 and 941 Hamiltons. It seems only fair that we not neglect the other Hamilton 18 size two-toners. So here's a 937 (posted previously) for a starter:

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Hopefully a knowledgeable Hamilton collector will get involved with this and help us all along by assigning/identifying types, etc.
 

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Re: 18s Two-Tone Hamiltons not 940/941

Hamilton #6347 is a grade 936 with the same 2-tone damaskeen as Greg's watch above and is private-label marked "C.S. & H. Special".

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Samie Smith had a tutone, which I believe was a 938. There was pic on "the club" at one time... will see if we can get another.
 

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Here is a picture saved in my notes of #640214, similar but not the same as John's watch ...
 

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Fred,

I have that one .. it is for J.B. Johnson of Glenwood Ia.. Johnson worked as a watchmaker and Railroad watch inspector, eventually bought the Laraway business..in 1909
 

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Neat watches all.

John,

Does your Laraway have a multi-color dial on it? I seem to recall that some of his PL mvts do.

There must be other collectors out there with 18s TT Hamiltons, besides the 940/941. Sure would be nice to see some more.

Greg
 

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This is a 925 PL from Laraway serial number 558,502, much later than John's
 

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Diffrent angle. Lighting is the key to picture tones and I need help.
 

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You would assume that if the jeweler would pay for the 2-tone DMK he would get a DS dial?
 

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Re: 18s Two-Tone Hamiltons not 940/941

A 924 for J. C. Anderson of Telluride, Colo. This one came with a DS dial.

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While it is true that most of the higher grade American watches made for RR service used double sunk dials, some watchmakers and watch inspectors, including Webb C. Ball, did not like the double sunk dial. Ball and others felt that it was more fragile and prone to cracking than the single sunk dial, and that the single sink provided sufficient clearance for the hands, which was the initial justification for the double sink.
Eventually both Elgin and Waltham switched over to single sunk dials for their later RR watch production.
 

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I've posted pictures of the only two of these in my collection. Anyone else have a watch or two to show? Any reports of recent sightings?
 

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John and Jim, thanks for posting your 2 tone Laraway's. As a collector of Hamilton's and particularly interesting private labels from Nebraska and neighboring states, I find the Laraway watches quite interesting. As pictured below, many of these watches came with fancy dials, as well as, 2 tone movements.

For the few who may be interested, I found the following information in "The Jewelers Circular" from 1924:

"The Laraway jewerly store, Hood River, Ore., has, in its senior partner, Dr. W.F. Laraway, a grand old man of the trade. The Doctor started in business in 1866. He was located for 40 years at Glenwood, Ia., where his brother, who is still there, worked beside him on the bench as a watch expert. He was the first railroad watch inspector west of Chicago. Dr. Laraway located in Hood River in 1905, buying orchard acreage. The call of the jewelry business was strong however, and he and his son started a jewelry store and optical buisness. Before Christmas, this Winter, the Doctor made five gold rings for members of his family which have been pronounced by experts, model of engraving and workmanship generally. He is in his 76th year."

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Rhett,

The Mills County Genealogical Society of Glenwood, was kind enough to send this reprint when I was inquiring about Laraway and Johnson.. It is dated 13 Aug 1909 from the Mills County Tribune..
 

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Rhett,
Thank you for posting this interesting information on Laraway. I know John is interested as well, as we have exchanged information on this for several years and he has an ad from the Iowa location. A RR inspector for 40 years, and the only one west of Chicago for many years !!

I can just image the watches that he ordered from companies for special situations and as gifts for people he wanted to give or sell something special.

To me this is a major part of collecting, to do the homework, research and see what you can find out about a watch.

Thanks
 

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Neat stuff. Thanks for the continued posts.

Somewhere around here I have a newspaper ad for J. C. Anderson & Co. of Telluride, Colo., that mentions their special 17 jewel watch. Could this concern the 924 Hamilton shown above? Perhaps.

BTW, Anderson was a RR watch inspector for the D & RG around 1900.

Greg
 

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Re the W. W. Denney, Aurora, Ill., 937, there were a number of Denney's in Aurora and it's a bit unclear if this watch is for "William Woods Denney" sr. or jr. or even (as I recall) a "Woods William Denney". One or more of these characters also worked for the Aurora Watch Co.
 

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Fred McIntyre was an inspector for Rock Island and perhaps others from around 1896 to 1906. This picture was taken in 1906. The labels were added by me from the notes on the back of the photo.

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An ad from 1904 for J. C. Anderson & Co. that mentions their $15.00 17 jewel watch. Could the 924 above be one of these? Who knows. Notice also the interesting line at the bottom.

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Everyone, thanks for this great information of WF Laraway. I also have a two-tone Laraway, but it is a 16s grade 975 and came with a simple single sunk dial as well.
 
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