1883 model Waltham freaks ( Private Labels)

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  1. Steven Mercer

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    Peter

    That is the second one with this markings that I have in the database.

    Steve
     
  2. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    dial only signed: Sorenson Co. Established 1896 / Three Stores, San Francisco, Cal

    13,945,191, PS, OF, 15 jewel, nickel, in a gold filled, screw back and bezel case.

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    Steve,

    Was the other "D.&F...." found in Europe?
     
  4. Steven Mercer

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    Peter

    Don't know. All I have is that it was on EBay in Sep 03.

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  5. Steven Mercer

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    Two recently on EBay:

    Both dials marked: J.G. Graves, Waltham, Mass.

    8,452,037, KW, 7 jewel, gilt, non-working, no case.

    11,430,735, KW, 7 jewel, gilt, silver, hallmarked, case.

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  6. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay

    Dial only signed: Fattorini & Sons Ltd / Westgate / Bradford

    Dreadnought (in arc over seconds bit)

    15,462,591, gilt, 7 jewel, in a silver, hallmarked case.

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  7. Steven Mercer

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    Another from EBay

    Dial only signed: F. Ray Robinson, Sumner Iowa

    14,817,271, nickel, 15 jewel, lever set, in a nickel, triple hinged, open face case.

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  8. Fred Hansen

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    C. Routier, Quebec - completed eBay item #4927030015, I can't make out serial #


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  9. Steven Mercer

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    Dial and Barrel Bridge signed: C. Routier, Quebec

    serial number is 4629036, 15 jewel, KW.


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  10. Jon Hanson

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    Hi Steve,

    The big question--should you run out of names for 83s, what grade or model is next:???:

    77 or 79s:???:

    :biggrin:

    Jon
     
  11. Steven Mercer

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    Jon

    With approximately 5 million model 83's produced, and trying to figure in a percentage of watches lost, damaged beyond repair, broken down for parts, etc. How long before I run out of names to record? :biggrin: ;) :biggrin:

    Steve
     
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    Just a wild guess Steve, but I would not be surprised to see 15,000 different personalized and private labels.
     
  13. Jon Hanson

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    Yeah,yeah, come on--it was meant to be funny!:biggrin:
     
  14. Jon Hanson

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    If you run out there is always Hampden!:biggrin: (The Ill and Hamie FREAKS have already begun--thank God I collect only Marion JC nos.!) :biggrin:
     
  15. Steven Mercer

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    Another one recently on EBay:

    Dial only signed - J.G. Graves, Waltham Mass.

    8456544, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co, Waltham Mass., in a sterling silver case hallmarked Birmingham 1901.

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  16. Steven Mercer

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    Posted by Harold Visser in old ref::21 Jwl Mdl 83 thread:

    Dial signed - J.B. Nadon, Sturgeon Falls, Ont.

    17,858,985 tu-tone movement.

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  17. Jon Hanson

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    Thanks so much to triple H!!!

    Steve,

    (In abt 8 days I need to speak to you, please email me your phone no.)
     
  18. Fred Hansen

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    2344018 - Thomas Lees, Hamilton Ont. (marked mvmnt only)

    3395249 - Hight & Fairfield, Butte City Mont. (marked dial only)

    3889628 - Gus. Burklond, Osage City Kans. (marked mvmnt only)

    4378993 - W.A. Clark, Guelph (marked mvmnt and 24 hour dial)

    6257744 - H.B. Howland, New Bedford Mass. (marked mvmnt and dial)

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  19. Steven Mercer

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    Another ebay sale:

    dial only signed: Watch & Chronometer Manufacturers (in an arc)
    Fattorini & Sons, Bradford (in two straight lines)

    9,369,778, KW, 7 jewel, gilt, hallmarked silver case.

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    5193882 - Fattorini & Sons (signed movement, plain unmarked dial)

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  21. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Dial only signed - J.. Dallaire, St. Evariste Stn., P.Q.

    14,093,075, gilt movement, 17 jewels, SW, PS, in a gold filled, screw back and bezel case.

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    "Bosell Couri/SPECIAL" with locomotive above, Arabic, 18S OF on a 17J gilt Bartlett.
     
  23. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay

    Dial only signed: Fattorini & Son, Bradford

    20,640,635, gilt, 7 jewel, KW, in a silver, hallmarked case.

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    http://www.nawcc-info.org/JH03683coach.jpg

    I do not remember if I showed this 1883 to the "membership of the miserable!";D
     
  25. Jon Hanson

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    http://www.nawcc-info.org/JH037ny83.jpg

    Another for the Waltham freaks!:biggrin:
     
  26. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Dial and Barrel Bridge signed: Geo. R. Youmans, Special, Waycross, GA

    5,701,886, nickel movement, 17 jewels, SW, PS, in a gold filled, swing out case.

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  27. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Dial only signed: Milburn, Peterboro

    14,466,186, gilt movement, 7 jewels, SW, PS, in a silveroid, screw back and bezel case.

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  28. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Movement only signed: F.G. Reynolds, Plainville, KS

    14,959,104, nickel movement, 15 jewels, SW, PS, in a gold filled, screw back and bezel case.

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  29. Fred Hansen

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    3323175 - Robert Schultheis, Brooklyn E.D., N.Y.

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  30. Fred Hansen

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    4064573 - Jas. Allen & Co., Charleston S.C. (frosted dmsk w/ gold jewel settings, movement and dial with same PL markings)

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  31. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay

    Dial only signed: Fattorini & Sons, Bradford

    9,364,791, gilt, 7 jewel, KW, in a silver, hallmarked case.

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  32. Fred Hansen

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    Recent eBay ...

    4051823 - H.R. Woodward (marked on gold-flashed movement only)

    Fred
     
  33. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Dial only signed - J.G. Graves, Waltham Mass.

    8083700, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co, Waltham Mass., in a sterling silver case hallmarked Birmingham 1898.

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  34. Steven Mercer

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    An EBay sale:

    Dial only signed: Marvin W. Co. (fancy dial)

    3,029,670, gilt movement, 15 jewels, SW, PS, in a Fahy's coin, screw back and bezel case.

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  35. Steven Mercer

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    Others from EBay:

    Dial only signed - J.G. Graves, Waltham Mass.

    8450760, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co., Waltham Mass., in a sterling silver case hallmarked Birmingham 1896.

    8457873, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co, Waltham Mass., in a silveroid key wind case.

    8760309, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co, Waltham Mass., in a sterling hallmarked case.

    Steve
     
  36. Jeff Hess

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    ed haas, hayward california ..

    this one dial and movement.. number 12543519

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  38. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Dial only signed - Marcks & Co. Ltd, Bombay & Poona (Made in USA in arc over seconds bit)

    21,601,235, gilt movement, 7 jewels, SW, PS, in a silveroid, swing out case.

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  39. Steven Mercer

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    An EBay sale:

    Dial only signed: "Bosell Couri Special" underneath a train

    10,577,373, gilt movement, 17 jewels, SW, PS, in a Dueber silverine swing out case.

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  40. Jon Hanson

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    what did it bring?
     
  41. Steven Mercer

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    Jon

    I can't remember the final price and I don't remember if I recorded the price. The auction is old enough that it is not on EBay any more. Sorry.

    Steve
     
  42. Jon Hanson

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    This is good as I also have one with this dial at 108xxxxx which helps validate originality. Thanks.
     
  43. Steven Mercer

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    An EBay sale:

    Fancy dial signed: O'Hara Waltham Dial Co.

    13,654,339, nickel movement, 17 jewels, SW, PS, in a 14K solid gold screw back and bezel case.

    Steve

    PS - this dial was shown before in old ref::this thread. For picture see Jerry Treimans post part way down the second page of the thread.
     
  44. Steven Mercer

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    EBay sales

    Dial only signed: Fattorini & Son, Bradford

    5,289,266, gilt, 7 jewel, KW, in a silver, hallmarked case.

    9,366,616, gilt, 7 jewel, KW, in a silveroid case.

    9,993,344, gilt, 7 jewel, KW, in a silver, hallmarked case.

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  45. Fred Hansen

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    Dial, ended today.

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  46. Steven Mercer

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    An EBay sale:

    Dial only signed: Fattorini & Sons, Westgate, Bradford (Waltham in arc over seconds bit)

    17,611,610, gilt, 7 jewel, KW, in a silver, hallmarked case.

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  47. Steven Mercer

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    An EBay sale:

    Fancy dial signed: H.W. Co., Special

    11,315,794, nickel movement, 7 jewels, SW, LS, in a tri-coloured gold filled, hunting case.

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  48. Steven Mercer

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    An EBay sale:

    Dial and movement signed: J.G. Klein & Co., New York City.

    4,219,431, nickel movement, 11 jewels, SW, LS, in gold filled, hunting case.

    Steve
     
  49. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on EBay:

    Dial only signed: J.N. Brisson, Montreal

    13,657,302, nickel movement, 15 jewels, SW, PS, in a Fortune gold filled screw back and bezel case.

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  50. Fred Hansen

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    17105965 - J.A. Floyd, Mattawa (signed on the movement only)

    Original home for the old ref::dial Steve noted this July:???:

    ;)

    Fred
     

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