1883 model Waltham freaks ( Private Labels)

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  1. Steven Mercer

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    Another from ebay:

    dial signed: J.E. Rheault, D'Israeli, PQ

    13028584, PS, OF, gilt, 17 jewel, silveriod Keystone case, screw back and bezel.

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  2. Steven Mercer

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    Another from ebay:

    dial signed: E. Taillon, Fort Williams, Ont

    12786695, PS, OF, 17 jewel, gold filled, screw back and bezel.

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  3. Jon Hanson

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    How about this name?

    "L L Jacobs/Punta Arenas" with Waltham USA above sec bit.

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  4. Steven Mercer

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    Jon

    Got it, thanks.

    A new addition to my dial collection:

    single sunk - W.G. Wright / Owen Sound, Ont.

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  5. Jon Hanson

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    very fancy dial signed "V. H. Duhart Y CIA.,/MEXICO." Arabic upright numerials.

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  6. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    dial signed: J. Clinton Tribby, Washington, D.C,

    19317269, PS, OF, gilt, 7 jewel, silverode PhiladelphiaWatch Case Co. case, screw back and bezel, with train engraved on back.

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  7. Jon Hanson

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    Did we record this one?

    "Diener & Rothacker/Mexico"

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  8. Steven Mercer

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    Jon and Leo

    Got them. Thanks.

    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: W. Haas, Haywards, Cal.

    17078059, PS, OF, gilt, 17 jewel, silveroid Keystone Watch Case Co., screw back and bezel.

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  9. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: C.A. Keene, New York

    15459608, OF, gilt, 7 jewel, sterling silver, triple hinge, open face case.

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  11. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: Charles L. Hart

    3691499, OF, gilt, 15 jewel, gold filled hunter case.

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  12. Jon Hanson

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    Steve,

    Donesn't yopur data base show an OF one also, from yours truly?

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  13. Steven Mercer

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    Jon

    Check the 6th posting to this thread. You have it as Charles S Hart.

    Could you double check to see if it is an "S" or "L".

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  14. Steven Mercer

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    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: J.A. Bills & Sons, Vinton, LA

    4216557, LS, Htg, nickel damaskeened, 15 jewel, gold filled hunter case.

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  15. Steven Mercer

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    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: W.F. Sellers & Co., Altona, PA.

    9322832, LS, Htg, nickel damaskeened, 7 jewel, gold filled hunter case.

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  16. Steven Mercer

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    Richard

    Thanks for adding your watch to the list.

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  17. Steven Mercer

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    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: William Owens, Leeds

    Waltham in an arc over the seconds bit.

    21653413, PS, OF, nickel damaskeened, 15 jewel, silver, Dennison Watch Case Co., triple hinge, open face case.

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  18. Dave Chaplain

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    1883 model Waltham freaks.................

    Dial only:

    Guest Watch Co, St. Louis

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  19. Dave Chaplain

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    1883 model Waltham freaks.................

    Dail: Fattorini & Sons, Bradford
    Mvmt: OF 7J gilt KW #4730579, Fattorini & Sons, Waltham Mass
    Case: OF sterling AB (Abraham Beal) 1890 (Birmingham)

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  20. Dave Chaplain

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    1883 model Waltham freaks.................

    Dail: R. Herz, Reno Nevada
    Mvmt: HC 17J gilt SWLS #3203681, R. Herz Reno Nev. (still in business today)
    Case: HC Coin KWCCo

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  21. Dave Chaplain

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    1883 model Waltham freaks.................

    Dial: G.B. Tilghman Cape Charles, Va.
    Mvmt: OF gilt 11J SWPS #5769637, G.B. Tilghman Cape Charles, Va.
    Case: OF Coin

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  22. Jon Hanson

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    Have any of the members ever seen an 1883 signed movement, "The Guest" as on Dave rare dial?

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  23. Steven Mercer

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    Dave

    Thanks for the entries. I have them recorded.

    Jon

    Would love to see a movement that matches "The Guest" dial.

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  24. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: Robert H. Clark, Royston

    4732152, KW, KS, gilt, 7 jewel, silver case hallmarked Birmingham 1890.

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    Recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: Am. Watch Co., "THE PICCADILLY", Waltham Mass.

    8197895, KW, KS, gilt, 7 jewel, hallmarked silver case.

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  26. Jon Hanson

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    "V. H. Duhart Y Cia.,/Mexico." very fancy dial on 1883 model W. OF.

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    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: Pengelly-Akitt, Ltd., Calgary, Alta

    16479841, PS, OF, 7 jewel, gold filled case.

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  28. Fred Hansen

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    Steve -

    Have you kept these serial numbers and markings in order in a database, or is this thread the way they are being kept?

    Thanks,
    Fred
     
  29. Jon Hanson

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    Fred,

    Our goa; is to make an ever upgraded listing for added Chapter 149 research and a resource file. Eventually this info will be placed on a CD for the 149 membership and others for a chapter 149 donation.

    jon

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  30. Fred Hansen

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    Closed today on eBay ...

    Waltham, Anzelewitz Bros., New York

    Marked on SS Arabic Dial only

    (7J movement #13668215 with typical Waltham markings)

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  31. Steven Mercer

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    Thanks Fred.

    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: Fattorini & Sons, Bradford

    9366746, KW, KS, 7 jewel, silver case, hallmarked Birmingham 1902.

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  32. Jon Hanson

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    Am Watch Co 1883 KW 7j with the Fattorini and Sons dial from Bratford 13543707 in original silver half hunter OF silver ENGLISH HALLMARKED CASE #52

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    There have been a few of these lately on ebay as well as some upcoming auctions



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  34. Jon Hanson

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    KW all original 9364363 7J dial Fattorini & Sons/
    Bradford; orig half hunter, silver OF, case #88.

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  35. Fred Hansen

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    Recently on eBay ...

    "Hight & Fairfield", "Butte City, Montana"

    Signed movement and dial

    Serial #3208813

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  36. Jon Hanson

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    Hi Fred,

    Was the case original or switched?

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  37. Fred Hansen

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    Another recent eBay listing ...

    "C.L. Haskins", "Saratoga Springs, N.Y."

    Signed movement and dial

    Serial #3249352

    Fred

    p.s. Anyone care to see a similar jeweler contract thread for the Illinois Watch Co. started?
     
  39. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: George R. Youmans, Waycross, GA.

    5739212, SW, PS, gilt, 17 jewel, silveriod case, and fancy dial.

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    Another recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: F.L. Parkhurst, Everett, Mass.

    5385529, SW, PS, gilt, 15 jewel, gold filled, triple hinge, open face, case.

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  41. Fred Hansen

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    Another recent eBay listing ...

    "C.R. Smith & Sons", "Philadelphia"

    Signed movement and dial

    Serial #4067275

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  42. Steven Mercer

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    Another recently on ebay:

    dial signed: Fattorini & Sons, West Gate, Bradford

    Invincible (in arc over seconds bit)

    3997100, KW, KS, 7 jewel, silver case, hallmarked Birmingham 1911.

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  43. Fred Hansen

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    Recently on eBay ...

    "J. Kendall Smith", "Newark, NJ"

    Signed movement and dial

    Serial #2995113

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  44. Steven Mercer

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    Two more recently seen on eBay.

    Both dials signed - J.G. Graves, Waltham Mass.

    8,457,690, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co, Waltham Mass., in a sterling silver, triple hinge case, hallmarked Birmingham 1899.

    10,199,548, gilt movement, 7 jewels, KW, KS, barrel bridge marked Am. Watch Co, Waltham Mass., in a sterling, triple hinged, hallmarked case.

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  45. Steven Mercer

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    Recently on ebay:

    barrel bridge only signed: S&T Child, Philadelphia

    4380447, SW, LS, gilt, 15 jewel, gold filled hunter case and fancy dial.

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  46. Fred Hansen

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    "J. Edward Wilson", "Boston, Mass"

    Signed movement only (DS Roman AWWCo. dial)

    17 Jewel, Nickel, Adjusted, gilt screws

    Serial #7786922

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    Dial only signed "Diener & Rothacker, Mexico" and above seconds bit ... "Waltham, Mass"

    Movement was a gilt "Sol" grade, serial #7764538

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  48. Jon Hanson

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    Fred and others,

    I also have this dial but I have yet to see a mov't signed as such!

    Anyone else?
     
  49. Jerry Treiman

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    About 30 years ago my brother, Larry, picked up a number of NOS Diener & Rothacker dials from a material house in Mexico City. He found dials for 18-size '83 model hunters as well as some 14-size dials. I also have not seen one on a movement, but I expect they are still to be found in Mexico.
     
  50. Jon Hanson

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    Yes, I have also seen them on 14s Ws. But, the MOST INTERESTING one I have seen/own is on a fairly high grade early 72 model Waltham (dial only).
     

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