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Although there's no engravings or allusions to "Railroad" this is more or less what would be described as a "Swiss fake".
The movement is made in the American style to deliberately look like a Waltham Model 1870 or 1877.
Personally, since it has no deceptive markings, I wouldn't class it as...
I have 2 LS.
20599 and 20706.
20599 has been my profile picture, forever. Lovely gold dial w/ sub seconds. Still has the dust cap, also with the serial # and "W.W". 43mm diameter @ the pillar plate.
Both are just movements. 20706 is missing the dial and some other components under the...
Me either. So many mysteries.
Who the heck is "M. Fracies"? Where did that come from?
I'm wondering if Myer and Samuel were supposed to be representing their Uncle Morris interests in Liverpool in this 1805-1812 period, but they were not, really.
Virtually as soon as they got there...
Ah! That is the one I have been reading.
My PDF copy seems to end abruptly at the graph of Tobias genealogy.
My big question has been, can anyone enlighten me as to what happened to Anne and Isaac Isaacs, the parents of Myer and Samuel that necessitated their adoption by their Uncle Morris...
I think I would conclude that they are in fact all "I" and that it's just so fancy and similar to the "J" in that script that we can't tell the difference.
And we frequently find it listed as "M.J." in trade directories and other places because, they couldn't either.
It's probably why he dropped...
Looking again, I have some questions about the original premise, too.
Regarding the article from Morning Herald on the 20th May 1858, proclaiming him the "youngest son of "M. J. Tobias" Esq of Liverpool.
Maybe the "J" is a typo, maybe it's not.
It's the "Esq." bit that puzzles me. I'm not...
I am reading from Michael Edidin's Oct. 1992 NAWCC Bulletin article that in the Guildhall Library they have a watch paper from Morris Tobias & Company and that it gives their Liverpool address at 5 Pool Lane.
I can't say I have a position on the "I" vs. "J" other than it does look from the script samples that the J would have a longer stem.
I'm more intrigued by the variation of "Isaacs" to "Isaac" when it seems so certain that Isaacs is proper.
But, then I think of my own ancestry...
Some of the earliest fusee watches were made entirely of iron.
Quite a few in the 18th century were made with decorative silver bridges or cocks that were wheel bearing components. but not usually the main plates.
Of course, Waltham made the crystal watches, but that's much later and not fusee...
Well, I had determined not to service it or anything on account of it having a broken mainspring.
But, I did clean it up a little and gave it some love.
Now it's back up and "running".
Has a pretty good tick really even with just minimal wind it will take before the mainspring slips.
Ok. That didn't take long to sort.
It's just the screw from the barrel bridge.
It's countersunk "itself" down into the plate until now it is protruding underneath.
I take that back, too.
Not burrowed into the plate.
One screw is longer than the other and they were mixed up.
Yeah. I'm way more disappointed about there being no frame maker's marks than I am about the mainspring being broken. :(
I was going to say you won't believe this, but actually, you probably will. lol
It is indeed screwed down. And, there's 3 steady pins.
As soon as I went back to take a...
That is pretty much what I was thinking. "It has to be "marketing", right?"
The "Chronometer" part seems pretty obvious. I mean, it's a nice quality watch and all, but . . .
Though, I still feel like there is something I'm missing about the "Half Seconds" bit.
Some implication to the marketing...
I'm still not entirely clear on the purpose of the "Half Seconds" watch.
And, looking at the link to John Pavlik's thread, I notice it is written up on the receipt as a chronometer.
. . . where to begin?
How abut that 40 tooth 4th wheel, John? Any thoughts on that?
I really haven't even begun...
I appreciate all of the very interesting discussion. It's is tempting to just let it roll to see how much more I can learn before the big reveal.
Are you ready?
Drum roll please . . .
Standard single roller escapement.
Fusee. 70 teeth
2nd. 72 teeth, 10 leaves
3rd. 60 teeth, 6...
So, my memory isn't great, but at least my sanity is intact. lol
Just starting the day here so I have a few things to do first, but I'm looking forward to taking a closer look at it first thing when I get in the office.