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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Thanks again everybody. Here it is running with a full wind on the mainspring. I did use an Elgin 812 with the bottom bar ground down flat and the top bar filed alittle bit to a point to keep it from slipping. Now I will see how long it runs on a full wind then tear it back down for a bath and...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Rick, I do have an 812 mainspring here that I bought from Dave's watch parts a few months ago for a different Elgin watch so that is looking like my best option. Thank you and everybody eles that replied for all of your help and advice. It is great to have this forum and to be able to ask for...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    I took the mainspring out of the barrel and I included pictures. It does look like the tab might be broken off from the inside wall of the barrel. I have never seen the inside of one of these barrels before to know what the clip looks like but I cant see a place that would hold the mainspring...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    John, Oh okay now everything makes sense. Somebody cut the cap and filed down the tab on the bottom of the mainspring so it would fit (lay flat)inside the barrel. So my next move will be to try to find an mainspring 816 2324 and that mainspring will connect to the barrel wall and not have tabs...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Here a picture of the other side of the main spring barrel. I will take it back apart tomorrow and see if I can figure what is going on and I will look again at the teeth on the ratchet to see if the teeth are rounded or if it's just a glare. Thanks you for all of your help and if need be does...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Rich, Thanks so much. As much as I hate to do this (which is something I never done before) I guess I will have to remove the mainspring from the barrel to see if it is slipping but I did notice that when you look at the outside of the barrel, it does not have a hole or notch visible on the...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Here are 2 pictures of the barrel cap. I am hoping they are helpful.
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    1880 Elgin 18s Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Thanks for replying and I accidentally started another thread on this same problem and with the same title but this time I add some pictures.
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Thanks for replying and I hope these pics are clear enough for you to see. There are no missing teeth from the main spring barrel or the ratchet wheel.
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    1880 Elgin 18s Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Hi guys, I am looking for some help or suggestions on a 1880 Elgin 18s 11J Grade 13 Model 1 pocket watch. When I wind this watch with the key, it will wind and tighten but on the 9th or 10th wind it just clicks and almost all of the tension is lost. Almost like the click slips. I took the main...
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    Elgin Model 1 Grade 13 Key Wind Pocket Watch

    Hi guys, I am looking for some help or suggestions on a 1880 Elgin 18s 11J Grade 13 Model 1 pocket watch. When I wind this watch with the key, it will wind and tighten but on the 9th or 10th wind it just clicks and almost all of the tension is lost. Almost like the click slips. I took the main...
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    Pocket watch reassemble help

    Update: The shellac came in and I tried my first job at sealing the pallet jewel in place. I knew the location because there was a mark left from before. So he is a pic of it all cleaned, oiled and reassembled. It is running strong with great swing. I wanted to thank everybody for your reply...
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    Pocket watch reassemble help

    Thank you for the info. I will look to see if there is any shellac left over giving me a hint of where the stone was seated. I'll also go to esslinger's or Ebay and order some shellac. I will also watch a few YouTube videos to see how to apply the shellac. I guess it cant hurt to try it and see...
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    Pocket watch reassemble help

    Thanks guys so much for you help. I took a few minutes and took the watch back apart because this would have bugged me all weekend. I think I found the problem. One of the pallet stones is loose and sticking down at a weird angle. Luckily the stone is still there and didnt fly off to be lost...
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    Pocket watch reassemble help

    Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply and I am about to leave town for the weekend so I wont be able to work on it until I get back. Pallet fork seating was my 1st thought but I didnt know if the pallet would still vibrate back and forth if it wasnt seated properly. I can see all of the pivots in their...
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    Pocket watch reassemble help

    Hi, I am new to this group and just started tinkering with a few pocket watches I had found laying around. I have an Elgin 18s Model 5 7 Jewel Grade 208 pocket watch that is stem set and stem wind that I am trying to reassemble. I have it all together and all pivots or in place along with the...
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