For Bartens & Rice, New York.
I posted a thread about these several years ago, but still wondering who was responsible for making them.
It's quite a nice, presumably Swiss, but maybe French manufacture?
I've seen many examples signed Bartens & Rice with no clue as to the actual maker.
But, one...
Garon Brothers Jewelers in Duluth, Minnesota started importing fine Swiss watches in 1921.
Brother Julius used the first 3 letters of his first and last name combined to come up with the worst watch name in history. "Julgar".
I believe this one is quite a nice Minerva 7/23(?).
Oh!
Well then, I'd like to retract my former panic attack, but if you are open to up to #500,000 then I have like 70-80 to add, so I'll have to get to work.
I'll try and at least get a list of numbers together asap.
The "Our Own" labeled ones that I have, that I posted previously-
#274246...
I have seen a number of these Keystone Howard 10 size, series 14, marked "21J" and with an arrow with a star in it, . . .
but a "V" underneath it, and I only count 19 jewels.
Is this a known thing, are they marked incorrectly, or are there jewels somewhere I'm not expecting?
I'm sorry that I...
I don't know about that damasking pattern, but I do get the distinct impression that ones with the plain nickel finish, like your example here, are among the most scarce. Even more so than the two-tone ones.
The only ones I have like that are signed for a Private label as "Our Own"".
Both I suppose. I have a large collection of horribly fubar scrapped model 7's and 8's.
A few are private labels.
Most of them are plain gilt finish, but I have 15-20 in nice two-tone damasked finish.
There's maybe 4 or 5 different patterns represented and I just wondered which might be the...
Does anyone have any compiled information about which Rockford 18 size model 7 and 8 damask patterns are more rare than others?
there seems to be quite a variety.
I also have one marked "F.J. Kempel. Oregon, Ills." on the movement. A Rockford.
Wondering if anyone knows if this is associated with the same family or chain of Jewelry stores?
Indeed. Our/my thought is it probably does signify something. Either karat content or perhaps plate thickness/age wear. Like gold-filled 5 year guarantee or 25 year guarantee.
Or just the trademark for a particular company. ?
Thanks!
No. As far as I know it has no other markings at all. Definitely not under the lid or bezel. I do have a shot of that.
And, your list is also all I can find for Ladd trademarks. So, I think we can conclude that it is not a Ladd case.
I have permission to share the photos, but it's...
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