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    18th century - Nichols

    I have a cheap diamond tester in the drawer here (got it to prove to my wife her ring was real) :) I'll give it test tomorrow when I have the watch back out again.
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    18th century - Nichols

    Now that I'm back home from the office, I can clearly see that edge where the glass likely was placed and the 4 pin positions where it was holding it in. Very good catch on that! You guys are a true wealth of information here! Three of those squarish/round pillars appear to be original from...
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    18th century - Nichols

    Thanks for the great feedback and details on this watch. I had not thought of the glass cover over the balance cock, so that does make sense. I'll look a little closer at the pillars and the open area on the cock to see if I can find any damage or sign of changes. Would be good to know for...
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    18th century - Nichols

    Picked this watch up recently from an auction. It seems like a decent little watch that is running well. The hour hand was hitting the minute hand, so I had to bend that just a bit so it would clear it, and after that it's running great. The watch seems like it was well traveled as it has a...
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    Edward Prior - 1856 - Nice, but a little damaged

    That would make sense to me. The cases do not seem like your typical English watch case - they are too rough rather than well made. They also typically have a star or something else that would have been more significant in an Ottoman region, so I could see them doing that for their own custom...
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    Edward Prior - 1856 - Nice, but a little damaged

    I assume the cloth patterned inserts are not original to the watch, correct? I think they do look nice, but I would be surprised if they looked that nice after this long. The inner-outer case has the cloth glued to the silver back. I tried to pull it off slowly but it's just starting to tear...
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    Edward Prior - 1856 - Nice, but a little damaged

    Nice Edward Prior watch I picked up from an auction recently. It has the two external cases, but missing the larger 3rd one that I have seen with some of the George Prior watches. I assume this one would have had a 3rd case as well, but will wait for the experts here to clear that up. I will...
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    All very good advice, thank you. As with most things, will have to build up the experience.
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    The challenge is always determining the gold content before the purchase. I don't think the seller will appreciate it when I bring a tub of water and want to submerge their watch before I buy it. :)
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    Thank you for the help everyone. As with American watches there's no clear way to be 100% certain, but there are things to look for. Sounds like the European watches were very similar.
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    Thanks Jon - is it safe to assume all English gold watches are likely not solid from the 18th century, even if they do have hallmarks?
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    Thanks for the links. I think I just need to be a bit more clear on my general question here... If a gold watch has a London date code and hallmarks, does that imply it is real gold "plated", or is it "solid" gold through and through? As everyone and every article I read seems to avoid...
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    Are there any assey marks that would indicate a solid gold content?
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    Are you saying most of these early gold cases likely used leaf or fire gilding rather than solid gold?
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    Gold Repousse Case - Are these solid gold?

    I have yet to jump into the gold cases for the European market - mostly because I personally appreciate silver more, but I would like to begin considering a few. I know there are many tricks to imply that something has more gold than it actually does. I have several American gold-filled or...
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    18th century watch by J Backhouse

    As you say, we likely will never have a smoking gun, but there is a lot of evidence to the point that I feel I smell smoke. :) Great job on the find-a-grave. As long as this is truly the owner of the watch, it explains why he stopped sailing beyond 1776.
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    18th century watch by J Backhouse

    This post refers to some copyright material now removed. It is an extensive record of the slave trade and association of theses people added by moderator Freetz - thanks for the in-depth details. I was able to find the high level points on my own, but I did not find all that documentation you...
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    18th century watch by J Backhouse

    Thank you, I would appreciate that. The back story of the watchmakers and original owners of these watches are very intriguing to me.
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    18th century watch by J Backhouse

    Found a little more detail that may indicate the owner of this watch had crossed paths with George Washington. The watch owner, Samuel Kilner, was the Captain on a ship named, Industry, that transported about a dozen slaves in 1751-1752 from Barbados to the Americas. Looks like it dropped off...
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    18th century watch by J Backhouse

    Amazing work, they look beautiful. I'd say 99% of the people could never even notice that level of detail unless they were using a magnifying glass. That is some very fine craftsmanship. Adam

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