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    Sangamo Special question.

    no offense intended...many of us here want to learn what we don't know about watches/clocks and being corrected when we write something that is not factual is one way we learn...in this case there is a big difference between fishscale and crosshatch and members and guests here need to know which...
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    Sangamo Special question.

    Nice! Like one reply said, the demaskeen is called "crosshatch" not fishscale. It looks to be all original and with that serial number, likely has a diamond endstone. I collect model 9 Sangamo Specials...they are my favorites!
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    Illinois Ball

    I see Illinois Ball watches were produced from 1928 for a few years...were they actually made by Hamilton?
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    Illinois Ball

    Does anyone know how many 16S Illinois Ball watches were produced?
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    Hamilton and Illinois watch wanted

    Must be in flawless condition
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    So....it looks like a genuine factory 992 movement with a 992E serial number...
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    My watchmaker just sent me pics of parts of that watch that match the serial # of the movement 2582731...here are two of them:
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    I just saw elsewhere on the web that someone owns serial #2582729 which is marked elvinar and mine being #2582731, just the second watch after that one off the assembly line and doesn't have elvinar marked because it's a 992 instead...hmmm....that has to mean something
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    So, it's no big deal I guess....at first, I thought about sending it back for a refund since I paid for a 992e and even messaged the seller that I might do that depending on what I found out about it. Then I thought it might be a factory error, or in any event, a scarce collector item so I went...
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    Thanks....the difference between the one you referenced in post #10 is that particular 992 falls into the serial number range of 992s that are known to be among the 992E serial numbers as Terry referenced in an above post...my serial number is not among that group of 992s
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    I understand that and that's why I'm a member here, to be with those who I can learn from and I appreciate every comment or question. I'm just saying that I'm SURE this watch is what my watchmaker said it is: a 992 movement with a 992E serial number. I can ask another watchmaker to take pics...
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    He just finished with a COA and the watch is back together and he's timing it now...he's in MO and I'm in PA and there is no reason for him to lie about it but thanks for your interest
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    I just got word back from my watchmaker that all the numbers on the movement match...so, that means it's a 992 movement with a first run 992E serial number in the database AND it's not listed in the serial number range of the 992L that are within the 992e database numbers...so, how much of an...
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    so, correct me if I'm wrong: I should see if the number under the pillar plate matches the serial # on the movement? And if it does, what conclusion can I draw?
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    Need help with a Ham 992E(?)

    Interesting Terry! I'll send a better pic soon but what do you make of the seeming fact that this movement's serial # lies outside of the serial number range of known 992Ls?
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