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Old 02-12-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Waltham "1877" calibre

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Can anyone tell me if the 1877 calibre waltham had a breguet balance spring fitted to it originally?
I have looked in the data base and it tell me that the watch was made in 1882. (Serial N° 1741948).

The way the regulator pins and the balance spring are seems to me to indicate it was originally fitted with a Breguet, but some body has put a flat spring in instead.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:55 PM
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The 1877 model was developed with a flat hairspring in all grades. Some of the late Appleton Tracy & Co. grade were fitted with Breguet hairsprings in the mid 80's.

Here are a pair of them from each group.
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Old 02-12-2007, 07:10 PM
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Thanks Mr McIntyre for your reply,
I have one of the early ones, no jewels, and to get the balance spring to sit between the pins, I must shape the balance spring into a bowl! Otherwise it misses the pins entirely! The pins barely come below the bottom of the cock, and for a flat hairspring this is rather scary

I did once come across a balance spring that had the last 1/2 of the last coil raised. It was NOT a Breguet, just the last 1/2 turn was raised. I never could find out if it was a one off by a watchmaker or not but I suspect it was.
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Old 02-12-2007, 07:35 PM
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Is the regulator curved like the first example I showed? If so, either the regulator pins are too short, or hairspring is colleted too low, which probably means the balance is not correct, etc.
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Old 02-12-2007, 07:40 PM
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The regulator is exactly like the first example. The reglator pins are to short but they do not appear to have been shortened. This is what threw me. I would have to bring the balance spring up to the base of the cock to get it flat
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