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Old 06-26-2002, 09:21 AM
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Default 992B Movement markings variations

In my short time with these watches I have noticed at least 3 different styles or placement of the words on the movement. Can any of you post pictures of the different styles?
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Old 06-26-2002, 09:21 AM
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In my short time with these watches I have noticed at least 3 different styles or placement of the words on the movement. Can any of you post pictures of the different styles?
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:14 PM
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Well I can get em all....... almost 500,000 #'s apart.

An Early one.


A middle one.

And

A Late one.This one is C508787.

I have not determined a 'break point' for the changes....[heck just started looking].... But I have seen C402652 with the middle style and I also own C440495 [which has original boxes and labels].... It has the same markings as the late style.
Let's see if the codes worked this time.


They didn't!



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Old 06-26-2002, 01:32 PM
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You'll NEVER stump Terry Hall on a 992-B, way to go!
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Old 06-26-2002, 04:29 PM
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Please.... don't try...... It can be done! :biggrin:

Just was reported C196551, it has the "middle" pattern.

I guess we need to call it 'second signature'.

AND after I posted the above.....
C 132986 has second signature.
Could this change in signature follow the change in center wheels??

6-28-02 It appears that the change in signature came before the change in wheels.. read post below

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Old 06-27-2002, 02:46 AM
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Chris,
Michael Chamelin and I have been working on this and will attempt to publish.

The main focus of the database was establishing a relationship to movement serial number to wadsworth case serial number[models 2,2[tutone],8,10 and crossbar]. Doing this research has branched off into obtaining other features, like this one.

We feel we need a wider base of information before assembling our conclusions. We would like to have more examples of Factory boxed versions which still have their original labels on the boxes. As I have stated before, what would be even better would be records from sales agents documenting purchase dates and sales dates.

Mike and I have talked about a 12 to 18 month completion date.
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Old 06-27-2002, 02:54 AM
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terry Hall

Thanks for those pictures. Please let us know when your book comes out. I want one!
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Old 06-28-2002, 06:58 AM
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Some new information has come forth... [THANKS FRED].

It appears the change between the first signature and the second falls between C30,898 and 42,936. Further information can narrow this point down.
So the change in gold center wheels is independent of the change in movment markings.

Some further study is also happening to see if there were more than the three signature styles.... will update this as it proves out.
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Old 06-28-2002, 07:53 AM
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I found what I believe to be a first marking with a serial number of C35762 on EBAY. If it is correct you can move your lower limit up.

JMH http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...item=889470572

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Old 06-28-2002, 08:14 AM
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JohnH, thanks!
Looks correct to me... have updated DB.

You get a big ATTABOY this afternoon!
I appreciate it.
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