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    Just had a friend bring one in. Movement looks exactly like a Hermle. Does anyone know if Hermle made movements for Mauthe? If so, I was thinking of swapping in a spare Hermle time train barrel that I have for the Mauthe one that has a bad mainspring. That is if the teeth count is the same.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    I've seen them in several kinds of clocks, but they always had the Hermle numbers stamped on the plates, and the other pendulum info. as well. Often they have another name instead of Hermle, but I haven't found one yet that was void of the movement numbers.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: shutterbug)

    Quote Originally Posted by shutterbug View Post
    I've seen them in several kinds of clocks, but they always had the Hermle numbers stamped on the plates, and the other pendulum info. as well. Often they have another name instead of Hermle, but I haven't found one yet that was void of the movement numbers.
    I just overhauled a 1930's vintage Hermle that only had FHS stamped on the plates. No movement numbers.
    Hookster, I wouldn't expect them to be the same. If both barrels are good, why not just swap the springs? This will give you something easy to measure for comparison (the springs).
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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: harold bain)

    You are right Harold. Why be lazy. Swapping the spring is obviously no big deal. The old spring in the Mauthe is not broken, just tired out, so no damage appears evident and the movement otherwise looks pretty clean, with little or no bushing wear. Now, back to searching for the missing parts for my newly acquired Schatz cuckoo movement.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    Quote Originally Posted by hookster View Post
    Does anyone know if Hermle made movements for Mauthe?
    Hook,

    The sure did.

    They made them for several famous movement makers, when the old companies were trying to cut corners to keep their ship afloat.

    They (Hermle) even stamped their movements for several clock supply companies, and also clock kit companies.

    Willie X

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: Willie X)

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie X View Post
    Hook,

    The sure did.

    They made them for several famous movement makers, when the old companies were trying to cut corners to keep their ship afloat.

    They (Hermle) even stamped their movements for several clock supply companies, and also clock kit companies.

    Willie X

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: soaringjoy)

    OK I have it all apart. Only the T1 wheel needs to be bushed. I know that we have had this debate before, but is it best to leave the center cam on its arbor or remove it to have a look see? I find reassembly easier with it off. Also, the mainsprings look a little gummy so they will need to come out to be cleaned/oiled, and maybe the time one replaced. Reminder, it is very similar to a 3 train Hermle.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    I'll modify my former "no" to a "maybe" depending on the condition of the rear pivot. If it needs to be dressed, then 'yes'. If not .... 'no'.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    Quote Originally Posted by hookster View Post
    Just had a friend bring one in. Movement looks exactly like a Hermle. Does anyone know if Hermle made movements for Mauthe? If so, I was thinking of swapping in a spare Hermle time train barrel that I have for the Mauthe one that has a bad mainspring. That is if the teeth count is the same.
    The Mauthe units made by Hermle were usually stamped with a '502' on the rear plate.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: MARK A. BUTTERWORTH)

    Yepp Mark, you ate bang on correct. Marked 502.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    For the records, if the movement is post 1975, it has nothing to do with
    the Friedrich Mauthe Schwenningen Co., except for the use of the name
    for marketing.
    That "502" rang a bell...
    Jurgen "tempus nostrum"

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: soaringjoy)

    All back together and running fine, except that I am only getting a maximum of 1.5 inches of pendulum swing, regardless of how I adjust the verge/crutch bridge or the beat. It is a 35 cm pendulum length. Any thoughts? Is that amount of swing typical?

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    Quote Originally Posted by hookster View Post
    All back together and running fine, except that I am only getting a maximum of 1.5 inches of pendulum swing, regardless of how I adjust the verge/crutch bridge or the beat. It is a 35 cm pendulum length. Any thoughts? Is that amount of swing typical?
    It could be fine. How much over-swing do you have. That's a more important barometer of health

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: shutterbug)

    Over swing seems OK.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Movement (RE: hookster)

    Quote Originally Posted by hookster View Post
    Over swing seems OK.
    Then you should be good

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