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    Default Mauthe Westminster question

    My Westminster mantle clock which has a very old Mauthe movement was chiming the hour incessantly, so I needed to remove it from the case to examine it. It turned out that a pin on the gathering pallet had gone missing and I took care of it. Would anyone know how old this movement is? The plates both have a serial number and on plate has the number "16" on it. 1916, perhaps?

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: Thyme)

    I would think 1920's but it could be earlier. I've seen a few earlier Mauthes that use a different movement design (usually in bracket clock cases).

    The 16, I think, is the pendulum length.
    Justin A. Olson

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: chimeclockfan)

    Presumably 1920s or early 1930s would fit.
    Can you show us pictures of the rear side of the movement, as well as
    the whole clock, please?
    If the movement or anything else is marked, showing the logo may help too.
    Jurgen "tempus nostrum"

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: soaringjoy)

    This should be your movement, according to a service technics report in
    the June 1933 issue of the Deutsche Uhrmacher Zeitung.
    Most probably a 1931 / 1932 design, the movement was available with several
    different chimes with up to 9 hammers.
    The "peculiar" set-up of the chime train on the left was mentioned.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: soaringjoy)

    Here are photos of Mauthe trademark and of the back of the movement.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: Thyme)

    Thank you for the pictures.
    The movement is one of the variants and corresponds with the technical drawings
    of the DUZ.
    I suppose you know that pendulum spring/leader are not original.
    Although these movements do run on "tin foil" suspensions, the spring may
    have effects on the performance.
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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: soaringjoy)

    Quote Originally Posted by soaringjoy View Post
    Thank you for the pictures.
    The movement is one of the variants and corresponds with the technical drawings
    of the DUZ.
    I suppose you know that pendulum spring/leader are not original.
    Although these movements do run on "tin foil" suspensions, the spring may
    have effects on the performance.
    The rod appears to be original as it is the correct length, although I may have replaced the spring over the years. The slow/fast adjustment through the dial does not exist, however, and it was that way when I acquired it. It runs fine and keeps good time, so there's no reason to fool with it.

    Thanks for finding and providing the technical information.

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: Thyme)

    Thyme --

    These are very nice clocks indeed -- and especially so considering all of the economic pressures German firms were under in this era. And late at night, the "fuller" Westminsters reassure that "all is well" -- rather than Kate Bush can't adjust her hearing aid.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Zep

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: zepernick)

    Very nice case, somewhat different from the usual Tambours. Bet the chimes sound great.
    Justin A. Olson

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    Default Re: Mauthe Westminster question (RE: chimeclockfan)

    Quote Originally Posted by chimeclockfan View Post
    Very nice case, somewhat different from the usual Tambours. Bet the chimes sound great.
    I'm usually not too keen on German clocks but I do like this one. I like the carved wood on the case as it's very graceful. The back door is ofthe type that resembles an old wooden screen door - very quaint. I almost sold it a few years back as it takes up a substantial amount of shelf space, but I'm glad I kept it. It resides atop a corner china hutch in our dining room.

    The chimes do sound very pleasing. The chime block is a big, heavy one stamped "Germany" and also has a serial number. The clock itself was obviously produced for the export market as the dial says "Made in Wuerttemberg". But what is most surprising is how much the movement weighs. I didn't weigh it specifically but it's probably several pounds.

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